The Oversoul

Asker: I want to explore a little bit more about the idea of the experience of the oversoul, based on the idea that there really is no time as such in physical reality.

Outside of physical reality, there is the concept of time but it isn’t experiential as you know it. Okay. So we have, let’s say, one individual here who’s got an experience going in this lifetime in the physical universe as we know it. Now let’s say that there are two or three oversouls who, without being in the time stream and all experiences simultaneous, would want to or benefit from that particular life experience. Could they not, by consideration, experience that lifetime as well?

Bashar: Yes. If it serves a purpose. There can be many ideas which act as fulcrum points, pivot points for many different separations of the soul self. They can be common ground.

Asker: The only thing that I found curious about that was that we all seem to be so diverse, so unique.

Bashar: Yes. Because of our own experiences and our own accumulation of experiences in certain patterns and ways, even though we’re all basically one. This is also a transformation of life. This idea expresses more opportunity to exist now in your reality than it has before because you are now bringing together in this physical life many ideas which are focusing from many different alternate time tracks and oversoul selves. The whole society.

Asker: Yes. Proceed. Well, that was basically it. I was just looking at the fact that without time consideration, any oversoul of any kind—why not? Why not? Why not? Thank you.

Asker: Is the oversoul the same as the highest self?

Bashar: In a sense, it can function in that manner. You can also create a separated version of the higher self that has a specific attunement to any specific life. It will be then a fragment of another type. Surely yes, though it can be again very nebulous—fine line between the idea of higher self and oversoul. They are basically one and the same thing.

Asker: In Scientology there’s a concept called body thetan, where the idea of separate entities do theoretically inhabit a body along with the being that’s supposedly running the body.

This idea involves a phenomenon which I’m not intimately familiar with but which I understand from a friend. He experiences what he believes is believing of one of these beings, and he told me a story about one time when one of these beings supposedly left his body and the fellow that he was standing right next to perceived this phenomenon in such a way that he had a personal experience, some kind of sensation experience. Could you tell me what it is that they were actually experiencing?

Bashar: The sharing of their particular reality of their belief systems and thus the reflection of that in their physical reality. Is it not simple? This is how everything is done in physical reality.

Asker: There are isolated miniature mass consciousnesses within the overall mass consciousness. You have your own belief systems within the one belief system, right? Of course. Well, I understand that. I was just curious as to what the phenomenon was that they were experiencing—the experience of their belief systems.

Bashar: It is their version of forming an integration in that belief system. Translated into their symbology, into their archetypal symbology.

Asker: What were they integrating?

Bashar: Their own personalities.

Asker: That’s interesting because in their concept they are getting rid of their belief.

Asker: you know how I feel about this. You know what my understanding of this is.

Why did you feel that what we said was an accusation that you did not—

Bashar: Because that’s the way it came across.

That is the way you interpreted it. All we said was a simple line, a statement.

Asker: They feel like they’re getting rid of something. I know they’re not. So, what is the phenomenon when you say that they’re integrating something? It seems contradictory that they’re integrating something when they believe that they’re getting rid of something.

I understand that you don’t get rid of anything.

Bashar: Then that is the answer.

Asker: But they feel that they are.

Bashar: So what? What has that got to do with your understanding?

Asker: I was trying to reconcile the idea of integrating something within the context of their belief of getting rid of something.

Bashar: And we already gave you the answer.

Integrating can still take place even if you are giving the integration, sometimes a separationist symbol such as “getting rid of something.”

It still can represent that you know you are integrating a portion of yourself within you, but you are using terminology and a belief system that says you are actually getting rid of something to do it.

Asker: why didn’t you say that the first time?

Bashar: Because we already gave you that answer and you said you understood.

Asker: You did not give me that answer.

Bashar: Did we give him that answer? Did we not say it was their symbology, their belief system, their interpretation of the integration?

Asker: Yes.

Bashar: Then that is all we just repeated to you. It is an integration because they have made an integration but called it by another name. Their belief system calls it a separation.

Asker: Okay. Well, the elaboration you just gave me resulted in a good degree of understanding.

The first version did not. Yes. So, why would you expect me to understand something if I needed—or felt that I needed—the elaboration to feel like I understood it?

Bashar: When we gave you the line that caused you to feel we were accusing you of not understanding, it was at that point a timing prod for you to recognize that you came back to me and said, “I do understand,” and then in the very next sentence went on to explore the idea of not understanding.

It was an opportunity for you to see how you also were choosing one type of labeling for another type of experience.

Asker: indeed I was separating the concepts that I claimed to understand in that I was understanding one concept and not understanding another concept.

Bashar: It is all the same concept. This is what we are saying.

You are making the polarization. When we said, “You do not get rid of anything,” you chose to take it as an accusation that you did not know this.

Yes, you did. Which allows you to realize that in choosing to interpret that as an accusation, you are now exploring the idea of not understanding. Okay? Which is knowingness.

Asker: Okay. So what’s your point?

Bashar: Simply that your reaction enabled you to understand that you were also creating the same kind of polarity that you were asking me to elaborate on that you said you did not understand. The polarity within that individual has now been experienced by you. So now you have an emotional understanding.

Asker: Ah, interesting.

Bashar: you asked us to assist you in an emotional understanding of all these situations that you are discussing with us.

Yes. Thus we prodded you so you could have an emotional experience of the idea that those individuals were discussing—that feeling of something leaving the self and wanting to understand what was going on.

Asker: I wonder if you could elaborate on any possible past life connections that Wendy and I have had that might be valuable now.

Bashar: Nope. Thank you. I will be willing to walk through some with you if you are willing to lead based upon your own intuitions. Now, what do you think might have value or validity for you? And what were they?

Asker: All right. And the other was in the United States.

Bashar: All right. Now, why in your feeling, in your imagination, in your wildest notions, do you feel that these two ideas hold meaning for you?

Asker: All right, I’ll give you a hint. Do you feel there are aspects of this present life that are reflecting some of the emotionalities you felt in those lives?

Asker: Yes. That you are exploring certain portions of yourself in this life that you feel connected to the symbology that you acted out in those lives? All right. Go from there.

Bashar: All right. I’ll ask you another question. Can that be enough for you? Can you allow yourself to know that these past lives do not control you in the present? Because in the present you are creating your past and your future.

Asker: Yeah. You can allow yourself to know that many ideas you call past lives can act as symbology for you simply to allow you to focus in on the ideas you are exploring in the present. There does not have to be any further connection than that. There can be, but there does not have to be. Now how does the higher feel? Is it not quite satisfying?

Asker: Maybe. Maybe not quite. I do.

Bashar: All right. Hold that thought for a moment. Each and every one of you explore your own facets as we go along. There is always something in this for everyone. Now allow me to ask you as we proceed. All right. Before the next step, can you hold on to this idea for a few moments of your time? You may all take a short break.

Asker: What we call the template vibrational signatures of your own consciousness as you look inward to the center of your own source of self. You follow me? Is there any particular way to trigger this?

Bashar: Integration at this time in this transformational life can do this if you wish. It is a symptom of integration. Very good. Great thing. Yes.

Asker: Okay. So I should not worry about it?

Bashar: It is our suggestion that you can enjoy it. Understand that disorientation is just that: disorientation. You are orienting to something new. Confusion is just that: co-fusion. You only judge the idea of confusion to be negative because it unlocks you from the reality with which you are familiar. But understanding this way, you are giving yourself the opportunity to view many other ideas and realities within your overall total self. Thus for a moment you become unlocked, confused. You co-fuse with all the other ideas of yourself, and many of these expressions that you are experiencing are symptoms of this idea.

Asker: So you’re saying that they come from not separation—integration.

Bashar: They came from integration. But then you also said that they came from confusion. Does that—

Asker: Your definition of confusion is one of judgment and separation? We are redefining your idea—con fusion with fusion, co-fusion, togetherness, integration.

Asker: It’s not there. It’s not as good as it should be. And I was wondering if there’s any—where is it, do you suppose?

Bashar: Where is it? I don’t know where it is. Maybe you can listen with your other ears for it. Give it a try.

Asker: Give it a doing. If my opinion—well, my opinion means nothing. Any help that I could get because—why not get the best help possible?

Bashar: Well, you are the best. No, you are okay. You are always your own best everything right now. Why do you suppose that you need to hear with that ear?

Asker: Because it’s best to be able to hear through both ears and—all right.

Bashar: In the same manner that it is balanced to use both sides of the brain.

Asker: Mhm. All right. Okay. This is—I’m not quite sure how to go about that.

Bashar: Tilt your head to the left side. How does that feel? What types of sensations in your imagination do you experience?

Asker: It’s a little different because I guess I haven’t been used to holding my head to the left side for a while.

Bashar: All right, put it back up straight. Now, tip it to the right side. Now what kind of sensations? Then straight up. Now look to your left. What kind of sensations? When you say something—anything at all, anything your imagination gives you: picture, feeling, sensation, anything.

Asker: It just—it was light. It was easy to do it.

Bashar: All right. Now, look the other way.

Asker: Making me have a headache.

Bashar: All right. Very good. Look the other way. Now what?

Asker: I don’t know. It gets pretty regular. Pretty regular.

Bashar: All right. Now, look back the other way again. Opposite left. You have the headache again. All right. Wait a minute. So that’s why it was on the other side. Now look straight ahead. Tip your head to the right one more time. How does that feel?

Asker: A little heavy.

Bashar: I’m seeing the correlation. It was light—it felt light to the left. To the right, now go left. Tilt. What sensations?

Asker: Stop right there. Did everyone notice she did the same thing twice? What was it?

Bashar: I’m ready. Thank you. Okay. Understand that in that way, when you sighed, you were centering yourself. You follow me. And you will release it. Now in this way, give yourself the opportunity to also experience the same sigh when you tilt to the right. Go ahead. All right. Do it again.

Asker: I think I force it.

Bashar: Do not force it. Now do it to the left. Do it to the right, left, down south side. Close your eyes and sigh. Open your eyes and sigh. Put your head back and sigh. Put your head down and sigh. Stand up and turn around and sigh. Sit down and sigh. Put your arms out to either side. Do not hit the people next to you. Straight out to either side, level with the ground. Take in a deep breath and hold it. One more time. Put your arms above your head. Let it out. Put your arms out in front of you, level with the ground. In. Hold it. Let it out. Now relax your hands in your lap. Sit straight and still comfortably. Breathe normally in a relaxed state. Turn your head to the right and left. To the left and right. Tilt your head to the right and left. To the left and right. Now close your eyes.

Asker: Is there a particular pattern or are they random? They’re kind of in a cluster.

Bashar: All right. Now, take that little cluster in your imagination and move it into the center of your brain. The very center of your brain. Do you see it nestled there in the darkness? All right. Let it be in the darkness. Let it be in the center of your brain in the darkness. Let the surrounding area be lit a little bit by the lights, but for the most part, let it go off into the darkness. All right? Can you picture this? Allow them to vibrate there, to glow there, to live there, to bob up and down serenely in their weightlessness in the middle, clustered together near each other in a little sphere. Don’t you see that light?

Asker: Yes.

Bashar: Now allow your imagination to assume that you are very tiny and you are inside the center of your brain right next to those little lights. Underneath those little lights, you are standing underneath those little lights floating above your head in the center of your brain. Look with what light there is available down your spinal column down the long shaft. Let it dwindle away to darkness. But what do you see?

Asker: All light.

Bashar: Let the little lights allow them to remain but let them go out for a moment. Do you see any natural light coming through the spinal column? And if so, what color it?

Asker: And I’m bringing it up. All right. But no, on all.

Bashar: Have you found something to explore in the dark?

Asker: I don’t know. What is the first interesting thing you got to do?

Bashar: All right. Are you all the way at the bottom?

Asker: Oh. Or did you stop somewhere?

Bashar: Kind of floating. All right. What are you seeing? Are you seeing any things going off to the side, branching off? All right. What are you seeing?

Asker: Just the kind of green the side.

Bashar: Do you hear anything?

Asker: Little bells.

Bashar: How very little bells. Do you hear them all around you?

Asker: Actually, I kind of like one.

Bashar: Would you like to keep on listening to those little bells anytime you want to? You are hearing them with your left ear. You enjoy hearing them with your left ear in this way. What do you enjoy hearing with your right ear? All right, one more time. Not a rationalization. Okay. What do you enjoy hearing with your right ear?

Asker: Well when he said that I heard right very good.

Bashar: Now you are hearing the little bells with your left ear and the deep vibration with your right ear. All right. Will you allow the ears to exchange the sounds momentarily? Hear the bells with your right ear. Hear the deep vibration with your left. What difference do you feel?

Asker: They kind of keep sliding back.

Bashar: All right. Good. Allow yourself then to simply know that you have chosen. You will integrate to some degree, but you have chosen to experience the ideas of the outward reality with one and the inner reality with the other. There are things you wish to hear in a certain way that if you are able to hear outwardly with both, you feel you might miss. Follow me one more time. It is a symbolic interpretation for you of the idea that there are sounds within your own consciousness that are very delicate and light and that if you pay too much attention to the outside world, you will not hear them. It will drown them out in a way that the fog horn will drown out the little bells if you let it. You follow me? Realize you are hearing exactly what you need to hear with each ear. They are simply turned in different directions, one out and one in. Now you may find that your left ear and your right ear will hear equally but they will be hearing in different ways in different realms, dimensional aspects, different densities. You follow me? Let yourself play with this idea for a while and you may find that a balance can occur in both directions.

Asker: Thank you for partaking of a very lovely journey inside yourself. Would it be that I do this visualization?

Bashar: You have just made the suggestion to yourself. Okay. And lastly, final question is—me getting very enthusiastic about what I’m hearing. Understand that you do not need to expect them to change. You may share if and when the opportunity is attracted by you to yourself. You do not have to tell them anything. They do not have to hear it. It is for you to use.

Asker: I just thought that if you blow out the same, it can flow out by your actions in your vernacular.

Bashar: Yes. What? What? Do not be sorry by this vernacular. This concept is not being perceived. Share a definition.