Archetypes

Session 89

Archetypes

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June 19, 1982

Session 90

Don Elkins
What is the situation of our 4D and 5D companions at this time?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
The 4D league of companions accompanies your group. The 5D friend, at this space/time nexus, works within its own density exclusively.
Don Elkins
How do these 4D entities get from their origin to our position?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

When a negative distortion is effected, this calling occurs.

In addition, the light of which we have spoken, emanating from attempts to be of service to others in a fairly clear and lucid sense, is another type of calling in that it represents that which requires balance by temptation.

There have been certain avenues into the mind/body/spirit complexes of this group which have been made available by your fifth-density friend.

Don Elkins
How do they get here?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

In the mechanism of the calling the movement is as you would expect; that is, the entities are within your planetary influence and are, having come through the quarantine web, free to answer such calling.

The temptations are offered by those negative entities of what you would call your inner planes.

These dark angels have been impressed by the service-to-self path offered by those which have come through quarantine from days of old and these entities, much like your angelic presences of the positive nature, are ready to move in thought within the inner planes of this planetary influence working from time/space to space/time.

The mechanism of the 5D entity is from density to density and is magical in nature.

4D, of itself, cannot build the highway into the energy web. However, it can use that which has been left intact.

These entities are the Orion entities of 4D.

Don Elkins
5D entities resemble those of us in 3D on Earth. But 4D does not. Why not?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

The description must be bated under the Law of Confusion.

The cause for a variety of physical vehicles is the remaining variety of heritages from 2D physical vehicular forms.

Physical evolution continues to hold sway into 4D.

Only when the ways of wisdom have begun to refine the power of what you may loosely call thought is the form of the physical complex manifestation more nearly under the direction of the consciousness.

Don Elkins

Well, If the population of this planet presently looks similar to the fifth-density entities I was wondering why this is?

Evolution would normally be 3D resembling that its 2D version and then refining in 4D then 5D, becoming what the population of this planet looks like on 3D.

Why is Earth ahead of itself in the way the mind/body/spirit complex, or body complex of that, looks?

Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

Your query is based upon a misconception.

In 5D the physical complex is more and more under the control of the conscious mind complex.

Therefore, the 5D entity may dissolve one manifestation and create another.

Consequently, the choice of a 5D entity or complex of entities wishing to communicate with your peoples would choose to resemble your peoples’ physical-complex, chemical, yellow-ray vehicles.

Don Elkins
If you were to move a third-density entity from some other planet to this planet, roughly what percentage of all of those within the knowledge of Ra would look enough like those entities of Earth so that they would go unnoticed in a crowd?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
Perhaps 5%.
Don Elkins
Then there is an extreme variation in the form of the physical vehicle in third density in the universe. I assume this is also true of fourth density. Is this correct?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

This is so. There is a great theoretical distance between demanding that the creatures of an infinite creation be unnoticeably similar to oneself and observing those signs which may be called human which denote the third-density characteristics of self-consciousness.

The grouping into pairs, societal groups, and races. The further characteristic means of using self-consciousness to refine and search for the meaning of the milieu.

Don Elkins
Well, within Ra’s knowledge of third-density physical forms, what percentage would be similar enough to this planet’s physical form that we would assume the entity to be human even though they were a bit different? This would have to be very rough because of my definition being very rough.
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
This percentage is still small; perhaps thirteen to fifteen percent due to the capabilities of various second-density life forms to carry out each necessary function for third-density work. Thusly to be observed would be behavior indicating self-consciousness and purposeful interaction with a sentient ambiance about the entity rather than those characteristics which familiarly connote to your peoples the humanity of your third-density form.
Don Elkins
Now my line of questioning I am trying to link to the creation of various Logos and their original use of a system of archetypes in their creation and I apologize for possibly a lack of efficiency in doing this, but I find this somewhat difficult. Now, for this particular Logos in the beginning, prior to its creation of first density, did the archetypical system which it had chosen for its creations include the forms that would evolve, and in particular third density human form, or was this related to the archetypical concept at all?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
The choice of form is prior to the formation of the archetypical mind. As the Logos creates Its plan for evolution, then the chosen form is invested.
Don Elkins
Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved upon this planet and, if so, what was it?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest.

It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools.

Don Elkins
I will guess that the system of archetypes then was devised to further extend these particular principles. Is this correct?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
The phrasing is faulty. However, it is correct that the images of the archetypical mind are the children of the third-density physical manifestations of form of the Logos which has created the particular evolutionary opportunity.
Don Elkins
The archetypes are the biases of a very fundamental nature that, under free will, generate the experiences of each entity. Is this correct?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

The archetypical mind is part of that mind which informs all experience.

The archetypical mind is the repository of those refinements to the cosmic or all-mind made by this particular Logos and peculiar only to this Logos.

Thus it may be seen as one of the roots of mind, not the deepest but certainly the most informative in some ways.

The other root of mind to be recalled is that racial or planetary mind which also informs the conceptualizations of each entity to some degree.

Don Elkins
At what point in the evolutionary process does the archetypical mind first have effect upon the entity?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
At the point at which an entity, either by accident or design, reflects an archetype, the archetypical mind resonates. Thusly random activation of the archetypical resonances begins almost immediately in third-density experience. The disciplined use of this tool of evolution comes far later in this process.
Don Elkins
What was the ultimate objective of this Logos in designing the archetypical mind as It did?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
Each Logos desires to create a more eloquent expression of experience of the Creator by the Creator. The archetypical mind is intended to heighten this ability to express the Creator in patterns more like the fanned peacock’s tail, each facet of the Creator vivid, upright, and shining with articulated beauty.
Don Elkins
Is Ra familiar with the archetypical mind of some other Logos that is not the same as the one we experience?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
There are entities of Ra which have served as far Wanderers to those of another Logos. The experience has been one which staggers the intellectual and intuitive capacities, for each Logos sets up an experiment enough at variance from all others that the subtleties of the archetypical mind of another Logos are most murky to the resonating mind, body, and spirit complexes of this Logos.
Don Elkins
There seems to have been created by this Logos, to me anyway, a large percentage of entities whose distortion was toward warfare, in that we had the Maldek and the Mars experience and now Earth. It seems that Venus was the exception to what we could almost call the rule of warfare. Is this correct and was this envisioned and planned into the construction of the archetypical mind, possibly not with respect particularly to warfare as we have experienced it but to the extreme action to polarization in consciousness?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

The Logos designed Its experiment to attempt to achieve the greatest possible opportunities for polarization in third density. It is incorrect that warfare of the types specific to your experiences was planned by the Logos.

This form of expression of hostility is an interesting result which is apparently concomitant with the tool-making ability. The choice of the Logos to use the life-form with the grasping thumb is the decision to which this type of warfare may be traced.

Don Elkins
Then did our Logos hope to see generated a positive and negative harvest from each density up to the sixth, starting with the third, as being the most efficient form of generating experience known to It at the time of Its construction of this system of evolution?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
Yes.
Don Elkins
Then built into the basis for the archetypes is possibly the mechanism for creating the polarization in consciousness for service to others and service to self. Is this, in fact, true?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
Yes. You will notice the many inborn biases which hint to the possibility of one path’s being more efficient than the other. This was the design of the Logos.
Don Elkins
Then what you are saying is that once the path is recognized, either the positive or the negative polarized entity can find hints along his path as to the efficiency of that path. Is this correct?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
That which you say is correct upon its own merits, but is not a repetition of our statement. Our suggestion was that within the experiential nexus of each entity within its second-density environment and within the roots of mind there were placed biases indicating to the watchful eye the more efficient of the two paths. Let us say, for want of a more precise adjective, that this Logos has a bias towards kindness.
Don Elkins
Then you say that the more efficient of the two paths was suggested in a subliminal way to second density to be the service-to-others path. Am I correct?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
We did not state which was the more efficient path. However, you are correct in your assumption, as you are aware from having examined each path in some detail in previous querying.
Don Elkins
Would this be the reason for the greater positive harvests? I suspect that it isn’t, but would there be Logoi that have greater negative percentage harvests because of this type of biasing?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
No. There have been Logoi with greater percentages of negative harvests. However, the biasing mechanisms cannot change the requirements for achieving harvestability either in the positive or in the negative sense. There are Logoi which have offered a neutral background against which to polarize. This Logos chose not to do so but instead to allow more of the love and light of the Infinite Creator to be both inwardly and outwardly visible and available to the sensations and conceptualizations of mind/body/spirit complexes undergoing Its care in experimenting.
Don Elkins
Were there any other circumstances, biases, consequences, or plans set up by the Logos other than those we have discussed for the evolution of Its parts through the densities?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
Yes.
Don Elkins
What were these?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
One more; that is, the permeability of the densities so that there may be communication from density to density and from plane to plane or sub-density to sub-density.
Don Elkins
Then as I see the plan for the evolution by this Logos it was planned to create as vivid an experience as possible but also one which was somewhat informed with respect to the Infinite Creator and able to accelerate progress as a function of will because of the permeabilities of densities. Have I covered accurately the general plan of this Logos with respect to Its evolution?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
Excepting the actions of the unmanifested self and the actions of self with other-self, you have been reasonably thorough.
Don Elkins
Then, is the major mechanism forming the ways and very essence of the experience that we presently experience here the archetypical mind and the archetypes?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
These resources are a part of that which you refer to.
Don Elkins
What I am really asking is what percentage part, roughly, are these responsible for?
Don Elkins
Ra
Ra
We ask once again that you consider that the archetypical mind is a part of the deep mind. There are several portions to this mind. The mind may serve as a resource. To call the archetypical mind the foundation of experience is to oversimplify the activities of the mind/body/spirit complex. To work with your query as to percentages is, therefore, enough misleading in any form of direct answer that we would ask that you re-question.
Don Elkins

That’s OK. I don’t think that was that good a question anyway.

Now, when Ra initially planned for helping the Egyptians with their evolution, what was the most, or the primary concept, and also secondary and tertiary if you can name those, that Ra wished to impart to the Egyptians? In other words, what was Ra’s training plan or schedule for making the Egyptians aware of what was necessary for their evolution?

Don Elkins
Ra
Ra

We came to your peoples to enunciate the Law of One. We wished to impress upon those who wished to learn of unity that in unity all paradoxes are resolved; all that is broken is healed; all that is forgotten is brought to light. We had no teaching plan, as you have called it, in that our intention when we walked among your peoples was to manifest that which was requested by those learn/teachers to which we had come.

We are aware that this particular line of querying; that is, the nature and architecture of the archetypical mind, has caused the questioner to attempt, to its own mind unsuccessfully, to determine the relative importance of these concepts. We cannot learn/teach for any, nor would we take this opportunity from the questioner. However, we shall comment.

The adept has already worked much, not only within the red, orange, yellow, and green energy centers, but already in the opening of blue and indigo. Up through this point the archetypes function as the great base or plinth of a builded structure or statue keeping the mind complex viable, level, and available as a resource whenever it may be evoked. There is a point at which the adept takes up its work. This is the point at which a clear and conscious consideration of the archetypical mind is useful.

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