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So What?

Elan Elan
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Elan
Elan
You create your own reality. You create your own experience, your own life. When we say this, we do not mean you have some minute control over a reality that you are within, but we mean literally 100%: you create the reality that is within you, within your Consciousness.
Asker
In our society, we sometimes assume that we are a soul within a body.
Asker
Elan
Elan
But perhaps the more transcendental perspective is that you are a body within a soul within a Consciousness—the Consciousness that you are. When you express yourself as a person, as a physical being, you still create your reality 100%, but you do so in a different set of props, in a different set of rules and parameters that you have laid down. Ironically, when you deny your reality, there is the apparency that you do not create it and that it is happening to you. When you begin to acknowledge your reality, it then reinforces that your reality actually happens from you. Therefore, acknowledging all within you is, in a sense, one of your windows or doorways to consciously creating your life.
Asker
We have many beliefs. Some we have chosen consciously, and others we have taken for granted or accepted from someone else or our society’s word. Many of these beliefs are limiting in nature.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Therefore, if you buy into these beliefs, while you are creating your reality, you create these limitations due to these beliefs. Now, very often the beliefs which limit you are beliefs which you do not prefer to have. So therefore, your society has a tendency to deny beliefs that you hold that you do not wish to hold, somehow feeling that denying them will send them away and allow a new preferred belief to replace it. But in fact, the opposite occurs. When you deny a belief, you place more attention upon it, more weight upon it. You may seem to be pushing it into the background, but you are literally stuffing it in a closet—a subconscious closet—and it will, in that sense, knock upon the door of that closet to once again give you the opportunity to acknowledge it or once again deny it. Acknowledgment is simply your willingness to say, “All right, all right, I do believe this about whatever the belief is,” and that is all there is to it. It can be that simple. Once you own that you contain a belief, then you can change it, for at least you have acknowledged that you are functioning from that belief. Acknowledgment is perhaps one way of saying self-validation.
Asker
What is a simple tool we can use?
Asker
Elan
Elan
One of the ways that you express your denial is through what you call self-judgment. When you judge yourself for having a belief, you then are not in full acknowledgment of having that belief. That judgment will generally devolve into denial, for perhaps you will say, “Well, everyone knows I shouldn’t have that particular belief.” But again, I remind you: you must acknowledge beliefs you no longer wish to hold in order to change them. Judgment breeds denial. Therefore, when you find yourself in self-judgment, there is a very simple—perhaps you can say saying, or mantra, or affirmation if you will—that you can call forth as a tool. It merely consists of two words, so it is not that difficult to remember. But this notion, this idea that you call forth, can in that sense serve to take the edge off of that judgment. For when you are judging yourself, you are invalidating who you are. When you invalidate who you are, you no longer express the ability to change; you are too busy, in that sense, feeling sorry for yourself, and very often will then compound the idea that you have judged yourself by judging yourself for having judged yourself, and so on and so forth ad infinitum. So therefore, perhaps you may understand that anything that you are exploring can be used to your positive advantage, and the tendency to judge yourself is perhaps simply an expression of the idea that you have done something that you no longer wish to do. And what you are feeling as judgment initially is simply that recognition. It generally will then devolve into invalidation and self-berating, but that need not be the case. You can simply understand: “All right, all right, I am judging myself. I am doing so because I have performed this particular action which I no longer prefer.” Now here is where the tool comes in. And again, we always intend that anything that we share with you is as simple as possible so it becomes accessible, usable, and applicable in these situations. So for one moment with me, perhaps if you will close your eyes. Picture yourself in the midst of self-judgment, in the midst of self-pity: “Oh poor me, why is this happening to me? This always happens to me,” and so on and so forth. Allow yourself to feel the accompanying, perhaps generally negative emotions. Allow yourself to feel how it feels to judge yourself. And then allow yourself to blank your mind, and along with me utter the following two words, which in a sense you may utilize as a tool to realign yourself with the fact that you can use your judgment rather than continue to devalue yourself through that judgment. So simply, I will say these two words as you are feeling this self-judgment. Repeat after me. Are you ready? All right. So what.
Asker
So what?
Asker
Elan
Elan

What a group! All right. But to understand, it is that simple. And understand the sentiment behind that: not that you are invalidating what you are exploring, but that you are willing to have it be “no big deal.” So what? “I did this thing. I have allowed myself to see that I no longer prefer to do this thing. So what? Now what can I do to express who I do prefer to be?” Not to continue to invalidate myself for having done something that has showed me I no longer prefer to do that thing.

Simply having this attitude—“Big deal, so what”—now realigns with who I desire to be. It can allow you, many times in a slightly humorous fashion, to remind yourself that it is simply not worth invalidating yourself with how far you have come in your reality. It merely does not serve a positive purpose; it serves only the negative purpose to allow you to continue to disempower yourself. But just as you have the ability to assign weight and meaning and judgment, so do you just as well have the ability to say, “Big deal, so what, all right. I will use even this. I will use all my creations.” How does this serve me exactly the way it is? That is the way a conscious Creator approaches situations: not “Why is this happening to me? Poor me,” but “How does it serve me?” And when you are judging yourself, you can continue to do so and create what you call a snowball effect, but you can also use that judgment to realign yourself to your preference. And therefore, even the judgment, which now will become quite momentary, will have served you. And everything can serve you, even that. So your willingness to put the edge onto it in the form of a judgment can simply be reversed or transformed by your willingness to lighten up on yourself and take the edge off of it. While you are within self-judgment, you paralyze yourself for action, for you are in that sense literally insulting yourself and then taking it personal that you have been insulted. But it is not necessary to allow the judgment to devolve to that stage.

You can use the fact, again, that you have the discernment within you to see that when you do something you do not prefer, yes, there is an effect, yes, there is an awareness that allows me to know, “I tried that, but I won’t do that again.” And if you do something that you do regret and would normally judge yourself for, it balances it out when you decide not to do that again. And it does not just balance out if someone else were to do that thing back to you.

So you can’t experience what you put out as getting something negative back and have that be one form of establishing balance or karma, but another form is to allow yourself to learn and then transform your actions. That creates a balance as well, though that balance is self-integration, self-definition, and is not what you would call retribution. Assuming that you need to experience the results from the receiving end of anything you have perpetrated is not completely the point of balance. It is obviously one way to do that—I need not tell you, societally this is obvious—but balance is simply a recognition and the performance of an action upon that recognition. So anything that you judge yourself for can be used and balanced without having to set up a reality where you then allow yourself to be victimized to create the balance. So saying “so what” in that sense is a step toward doing so. It is a step toward using the judgment to allow yourself to create the balance in an integrated, growing, and learning way versus, again, reaping upon yourself a similar action from another direction, which then again usually will result in creating karma in the style your society creates it for the new perpetrator. But this is all an agreement. You all buy into this, and this is why you seem to have a common experience of it. Karma in and of itself is simply, again, balance and need not only occur “eye for eye, tooth for tooth,” which can get, in that sense, anatomically rather expensive after a while. So therefore, begin to entertain the notion that everything that you have formally ascribed a negative label to, if you are willing to learn from it, has actually been of service to you.

When you decide to create your reality consciously, no longer is there anything in there that cannot be used, for you are the Creator. Therefore, anything there can be used. If some things had been created when you were, shall I say, abiding by a more negative perspective and they seem to be playing out as a negative result, your willingness to reinterpret that from your new standpoint can give you a different result. Again, I remind you that all situations are fundamentally neutral with no built-in meaning. You assign the meaning, and the meaning you assign determines, through your actions, the effects that you get back. So you can begin to reassign how any symbol serves you. And if you believe that you create your own reality 100%, that is the corresponding action one would take: always understanding, “All right, here comes a fascinating creation. I did not expect it, but it is not the one thing in the whole entire universe that is extraneous. I must have created that as well. Therefore, since I created it, I must have created it so that it could also deliver to me a positive message.” And beginning to look at all your creations from this point of view will allow you to relabel and redefine many of what you had heretofore considered to be repetitive negative symbols. And the only reason they are repetitive is that you have assigned them the same old meaning, getting the same old effect. When you allow your creation to deliver the positive integrative message—that is the reason for the creation—and it then no longer has a reason to hang around; it has delivered its message. So therefore, “So what? No big deal.” No longer are you willing to withhold your self-love due to any person, place, or thing, for you are made of Love itself, unconditional love. You are a spark of the Infinite, or All That Is, which is as well Unconditional Love. So within that unconditional love, you create, shall I say, a form of conditional love, and yes, you feel the results of that conditional love: “Well, I will love you if you do this, this, and that.” But because you fundamentally come from unconditional love, and what you call God, or what we call All That Is, always loves you unconditionally, it is not that difficult to tap into that emotion, into that feeling, for it is constant and it is fundamentally what you are made of. So as you are exploring conditional love, perhaps now you will also begin to explore removing those conditions one by one. And generally, one other way to define judgment is when you conditionally love yourself: do not fulfill one of those conditions, remove that love. Perhaps you can say seemingly temporarily, that is the result of judgment. And continuing to judge in that sense has the effect of continuing to invalidate yourself, continuing to invalidate who you choose to be. And then you are not acting like a Creator; you are believing you do not create it, and your life reflects back to you reflections, scenarios, and individuals that seem to reinforce that you do not create your reality. Whatever you believe will always be reflected back to you in the external reality. So you can create the apparency that you do not create your own reality, but the paradox is you are creating even that. So therefore, you can never truly escape your creations, but you can begin to take responsibility for them. You can begin to do so not in the form of blame, but simply in exercising your ability from this point forward to continue to respond—responsibility. It is an inherent, shall I say, characteristic of you all. Blaming yourself, assuming responsibility means the assumption of blame is simply, again, another expression of judgment. So what? Is anything really worth me holding back my unconditional self-love? We say no, but it’s up to you to decide whether or not you match that sentiment or not. We thank you for your willingness to communicate with us. Our society takes what we are sharing with you for granted, but it allows us to appreciate from a new point of view how we already live and what we already create when being allowed by you to interact with you. For in that sense, communicating in this way reinforces to us the joy that exists within our reality and allows us to communicate with you because you have decided individually and collectively that you are ready. Only can you understand anything that I am saying, only can you appreciate anything that I am saying, because you already contain it within yourself; otherwise, it would make no sense. So your society has come quite far in being able and willing to entertain these notions, thereby allowing us enough commonality to interact with you in this way. This brings us joy, and as a society, we interact with many societies, sometimes in this indirect way and many times directly face-to-face. This is an exciting time upon your planet. You perhaps sooner than you might imagine will become aware of what your government has been aware of for many of your years: that there is the existence of extraterrestrial societies. It is unlikely that ours will be the first that you are aware of, though perhaps you can say we will be one of the first. But from our perspective, we are, in that sense, because you have allowed us, one of the first to communicate with you as equals. For in this interaction, in this style of communicating, you will treat me as an equal. Up till this point, were we to land and communicate with you face-to-face, we still find, shall we say, a great tendency to concentrate on the messenger many times at the cost of the message. So this format allows us to communicate, allows you to sit comfortable, and allows you in that sense to directly interact with us, and this brings us great joy. In that sense, we are also honored by your allowance, for only could we interact with you with that allowance. And this is how all reality actually works: for nothing can take you over. Only can you match a particular energy and then create your version of that experience. But you create your own reality 100%. And even what you would perceive to be outside influence is simply you agreeing to create your own version of the intended influence. No one ever, or nothing ever, can influence you until you choose and decide to create the actions which then may seem from your end to be as though you were influenced, but you performed the action. Therefore, any joy that you may find in interacting with me, any insight that you may derive in interacting with me, is simply a reflection of what you already contain.

I will always remind you of that. For your willingness to interact with us in this way, I once again thank you and ask you now how I may be of service to you.

Asker
Could you say something about the “Big Now” and time travel, and how we can communicate? How does it happen? How is it possible? And I’m talking about the Big Now, that means everything is now. I understand that part, but…
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, right. Do understand that although you speak about the past and project what you call a future, only ever do you experience right now. It is always right now, even right now. No matter, again, what you presume to be a continuum, only ever is it now. And when you, in a sense, feel to continue what we had said before—that you are influenced by a past—you are simply right now recreating an action which reinforces that influence. But once that, shall I say, past now has passed, it no longer has any effect on you other than what you assume that it does. You always create in the moment. If there was not this mechanism, if you did not create in the moment, what you call momentum would be impossible. But because in any given now moment you can simply choose and decide to create from that moment, thereby immediately transforming any tendency in any moment, momentum is actually an illusion. You always exist right now. You always know what you need to know right now. Now is the only moment you ever exist and ever have. Now, what you call time travel, in that sense, will be the result of what you call linear time: the apparency of before, during, and after, again always experienced as a now, but there is the apparency of this progression. Therefore, you create an agreed-upon stream of time. You agree a common stream of time, and your society therefore exists within a particular bandwidth or frequency representing the stream of your creation of time. Now societally, you assume that this is the only time there is and that all reality exists within this frame of time, but actually this is not accurate. There are many different dimensions of reality, and one of the things that defines different dimensions—where we are discussing physical reality where time exists—is a different stream or a different creation of the stream and flow of time. So therefore, there are many other societies, civilizations, intelligences if you will, that create time at a different flow than your society. They are synchronized to each other like you are all synchronized to each other, but they are not synchronized, or their mass stream is not synchronized to your own. If their creation of time is vastly faster or slower than your own, you will not perceive each other. You literally create different dimensions of experience that can, even not to make this more complicated, exist within the same space and not perceive each other. Therefore, time and space are very arbitrary and are always represented by a particular frequency, perhaps you can say similar to what you call your radio. For your radio, in that sense, can be tuned to a particular frequency or channel, and when that channel is broadcast through your device, if it is functioning adequately, you understand that all the other channels exist. You do not think that you wink them in and out of existence, but that you are able to attune to a particular frequency that seemingly then is, shall I say, excluding all the other frequencies. And this is quite similar as an analogy to your creation of time. So therefore, time travel, or transcending, or shall I say transforming your experience or creation of time, is simply a matter of shifting or adjusting frequencies. Now we will not get too much into this before this does get quite complicated, but our particular spacecraft do not, in their, shall I say, long-distance travel mode so to speak, travel in a line from point A to point B. This would be quite ineffective and would in a sense bar much of the exploration of the Universe from us, for it would simply take too long to move about in this way. We understand that you do not exist, as we have been sharing, within time and space. And by the way, time and space are actually one unit, one expression: spacetime. Our understanding is that space and time are a property of you, because you are all, as Consciousness, also made up of frequencies of energy. Even your scientists understand this: that matter and energy are simply different forms of the same thing. You have within the, shall I say, expression of your frequency the component of that frequency which is your relation in time and space. When you become able to measure the frequency of a being and isolate the portion that corresponds to time and space, you can isolate that frequency. You can remove the portion of the frequency with time and space and reinsert a, shall I say, slightly differing frequency that corresponds to another time and place. And simply the effect will be then immediately, with no corresponding time taking up residence at the new place, but also at the new time, in that that is part of the frequency. Now I understand that this is quite complex, but this is as simple as I can put it. Does this answer your question?
Asker
Uh, yes it does. Um, so if you’re 500 years ahead of us…
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, this is an arbitrary figure. We create time at a different rate than you. We create time approximately 10 times faster than you do. So a five-minute stretch—this is quite arbitrary, we do not even experience time quite in the same way as you do—but were we to create minutes upon our planet, a five-minute stretch of ours and yours would simply not overlay unless we synchronized our creation of time. So speaking about where I am in relationship to you will constantly change, since what you experience as 300 years of your history along your timeline would be experienced by us as 3,000 years.
Asker
Hours? Proceed. So how much time has passed since last time we had a session in this at the same location?
Asker
Elan
Elan
My particular experience is that it is one long interaction.
Asker
Okay, that part is difficult to understand.
Asker
Elan
Elan
No? Oh, thank you. In that sense, it will give you something to play around with. Is that all?
Asker
Okay, thank you very much.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Oh, thank you. Shing, don’t be shy.
Asker
You have said before how inhabitants of your planet use mental telepathy as a means of communication.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, that is the only way that we communicate at this time. We no longer, shall I say, have what you call language.
Asker
I was just wondering how we on this planet can use mental telepathy in order to influence the behaviors, the behavior of others.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in that sense, that is not the reason that we communicate. And only when societally we were willing to not feel the need to influence someone else was there then enough unconditional love, allowance, and empathy for what you call telepathy to take place. For telepathy is, in that sense, the logical extension of complete empathy with complete identification. As and when you are identifying completely with someone as they are, there is no overtone that they should be something else. So perhaps I will ask you: what is your purpose in wishing, in that sense, to, as you have labeled, influence someone else for any reason?
Asker
I’m just talking about possibly through meditation or some form of psychic communication.
Asker
Elan
Elan
You may understand that when you send a message, it is received, but it will always, in that sense, depend upon the consciousness of the receiver. They will most often invalidate it as merely one of their own thoughts. But you can, in that sense, by thinking of someone, get their attention, and you will generally find there is a saying in your society: “Oh, what a coincidence, you are calling me. I have just thought about you.” And that is an expression of this.
Asker
Does it happen every single time we think of someone else?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, it happens in that sense, but again, the individual may, in that sense, not be in the particular place or time where it will make sense to them. So they will get an impression and then perhaps later think about it, but it can also be simultaneous.
Asker
Can it be more effective through meditation?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, where it is most effective is when the individuals involved are willing to display toward themselves and toward each other unconditional love. Telepathy is the direct result of complete unconditional love. When you unconditionally love someone, you are willing to identify with them as they are. Do you understand the connection?
Asker
I understand. Uh, just to sidetrack a bit. All right. Um, there are numerous cases worldwide of cattle mutilations. In many of these cases, investigators have determined that the mutilations are not predator attacks. The carcasses show neat, surgically precise incisions and removal of specific body parts. Low-flying unmarked black helicopters and UFOs have been seen in the vicinity of many of these mutilations. I was just wondering if you can comment on this phenomenon.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, this is a multitudinous effect. You may understand that to some degree, some of these presentations will be what you call extraterrestrials, in a sense experimenting and, in that sense, exploring your planet. But you will find a large degree of them also to be perpetrated by what you call your own population for one reason or another. Some of them are simply what you call fraudulent attempts at fabricating what you call evidence of UFO contact. Others are what you call various rituals that individuals will perform for various reasons, many of which are not within integrity in any way. And some of them will be what you call simply illegal scientific, shall I say, explorations from members of your own society. So it is a number of different effects.
Asker
What exactly are extraterrestrials looking for in those instances where they’ve been involved?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, perhaps you may understand that your own society, when exploring your own planet, your own environment, your own physiology, your own anatomy, will in that sense compare the anatomy of all the various species. So it is simply, in a way or in that way, an expression of the ongoing exploration of your planet and everything that is upon it, and also understanding you as a species. But it is not our particular society that is responsible for any of these.
Asker
Which society is it?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, there are more than one. The ones that are generally referred to as Reticulum will, from time to time, be responsible for this.
Asker
I read in UFO magazine that one person claims to have made contact with a certain group of ETs who claim that there’s certain enzymes in cattle that are needed to preserve human beings in space.
Asker
Elan
Elan
That is not our particular perspective. We understand that that is one of the, shall we say, hypotheses, but it is not our particular understanding. Now, there are certain ideas that can be from time to time utilized as sustenance, but that is not the overall idea, or you would find far more of an occurrence of this.
Asker
I just have one more thing I’d like to point out, and that’ll be it. All right. Proceed. Just to mention this UFO magazine that I read this past issue. Scientists studying psychotronics, which is the interaction between mind and matter, claim to have made psychic communications with ETs in an experimental setting. He offers this view of their relation to us, and I just like you to comment. After all, from my point of view, the human race is an offshoot, an experiment of theirs. We have been modified several times in the past. I think that’s why there is no Missing Link, because the beings who came here interfered with the natural evolution of the Earth.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, perhaps you can say enhanced. “Interfered” is quite arbitrary. To proceed, the evolutionary process was speeded up by bringing certain genetic characteristics here and implanting them. The time is approaching when they are going to interfere again.
Asker
It is not so much the time is approaching for them to, quote-unquote, interfere again. Enhancement would be, perhaps you can say, more of an accurate adjective. But perhaps you can say the day of the rejoining is something that will occur within your lives.
Asker
Elan
Elan
What sort of enhancement are you speaking of?
Asker
Perhaps you may understand that there were, in your ancient history, very, shall I say, humanlike beings that you would consider to be advanced that were generally regarded, and then rendered through your historical literature, as gods. They were not; they were much as yourself. And perhaps you may understand that they intermingled with your early population, and that, perhaps you can say, the enhancements would be the results of the benefits of their own evolution and, in that sense, their intermingling with your society. And the time frame in which they interacted with your society then fuzzes the line to even call them extraterrestrials, for in many ways they are also terrestrials.
Asker
Asker
Is there something else you wish to discuss?
Asker
Elan
Elan
No, thank you.
Asker
Oh, thank you. Sharing greetings. Greetings. Uh, you just mentioned that the time of the rejoining is going to be within our lifetime.
Asker
Elan
Elan
There is a high degree of likelihood behind that. Yes.
Asker
With whom specifically, or as specifically as you’re willing to be at this time? Are we going to be joined, and what form will this take?
Asker
Elan
Elan
You will understand that once there is the information worldwide about the existence of extraterrestrials, many of the, shall I say, attitudes regarding what you might colloquially refer to as noninterference will begin to be eased. And perhaps the most specific I am willing to get is that you will, in a sense, have the opportunity to have a reunion with some ancient friends.
Asker
And how will this affect our concept of our self, our point of focus, and how it is we choose to, or what it is we choose to direct our attention to?
Asker
Elan
Elan
The idea is that it will be a reflection of the shift in your point of view from, perhaps you can say, now to then. It is not that it will have so much an influence upon you as be a statement of your transformation and the degree to which your society now will allow such a thing.
Asker
I see. Because presently we direct our attention in certain characteristic ways: economic development, development of technology, and the like. How will this interaction with quote-extraterrestrials or ancient friends shift our focus, change our attitudes about what’s important and what’s not so important?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, again, this is quite arbitrary. As many people that participate within this, there will be that many perceptions of what is occurring. Shall I say again, that is what you will find out, and that is part of the joy of the discovery. But your technology will be perhaps a bit further along if this is to occur by that time anyway.
Asker
So we’re developing along a line that’s going to enable us to technologically blend with these beings?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, to some degree, there will be less of a dichotomy at that time, and you will then not feel any hint of what you call an invasion, for that is not at all the point. Perhaps you can say their old interaction with you, perhaps in that sense, may have seemed more along those lines, but their decision to no longer interfere in your society and allow you to grow on your own was heartfelt and will therefore be honored.
Asker
But you say there’ll be more cooperation in the future, more interaction as opposed to interference?
Asker
Elan
Elan
The idea is that only will that style of interaction and cooperation result in a reality that will allow such a reunion.
Asker
If I may, a parallel question. Um, we have the apparency of linear time. We have the experience of starting out with very little knowledge and ability as youngsters and developing ability.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, that is not completely accurate, but I understand what you are describing. Much of what you call childhood knowledge is invalidated and ignored, and many times, again, individuals are taught out of what is natural for them. Therefore, having originally assumed the natural point of view was originally in a position of knowingness. But we understand what you are saying. Proceed.
Asker
Yes. And as we look around, some people are more knowledgeable, capable, and effective than others. And some are more learning, some have more productive lives, some make a more significant, or certainly a more significant contribution to their society.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, according to particular points of view, perhaps. But no matter what anyone is exploring, from the aspect of All That Is, it is a perfect reflection and example of that particular exploration. Whether it is what you call integrative, which would perhaps seem more like serving the community, or negative or separative, it is still an expression. It still has value.
Asker
Yes. My question is: as beings, do we actually develop in some type of linear sense such that knowledge and abilities that I develop in this life or this time frame will enable me to move into more advanced types of inquiries and interactions in the future?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, many of you create that apparency, but it is simply an apparency. It is simply one way of experiencing it. Again, remembering in your pristine state, from the perspective of your oversoul, it all exists simultaneously. So it is again simply a shifting of the point of view from that simultaneous existence.
Asker
Let me phrase the question this way. Oh, please do. Is the learning, the doing, the developing of abilities that we’re experiencing—is this essential to our personal evolution?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Absolutely not. It is simply the exercising of the option because it exists, because you already fundamentally contain it all. There is truly nothing to achieve, and it is simply a matter of all the things that you contain experiencing it. And in this case, what you call physical reality, in what you would call portions that seem to exclude the rest of the whole. Growth, in that sense, is truly only an apparency. It is truly, more fundamentally, more foundationally, isness experiencing something because it is an option. Does that make sense?
Asker
Yes. Uh, can we say then that one can spend this lifetime being a relatively uneducated third-world street person and come back next lifetime as Gandhi?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Yes, that is possible. It all exists within the soul of the individual. If there is the, shall I say, strongly bought-into belief that growth is the process, then you may create through that belief an apparency of such growth. But ultimately, when you rejoin with your soul, you will understand it was all simultaneous.
Asker
And is it not the case that an infinite number of aspects of ourselves are involved in an infinite number of activities right now simultaneously?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, yes. But one of the definitions of this physical reality is to not be aware of that. And again, to be most accurate, you actually filter out 99.999% of who you are to experience the other 0.0000-on-and-on 1%.
Asker
And from my point of view, am I not the higher self that has all these aspects? And from every aspect, from their point of view, are they not the higher self that has all these multiple aspects?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, put it this way: each point of view will seem to be the point of view that all the rest of reality merges into as you explore and expand. Does that answer the question?
Asker
Yes, it does. Thank you.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Oh, thank you.
Asker
Is Alan? Is there… Ting? Wondering if you could help me understand why we’ve created the AIDS virus in our own reality. Uh, what are we learning from it that would be positive?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, there are many different things that you are learning, and again, precisely, there are as many things as individuals that explore it. But what you are, in that sense, overall exploring are several themes. One is what you call the balance of the male and female energy within you, and not denying either energy, since you obviously express both. Female energy simply being the portion of you that is represented by receptivity, and male energy simply being the portion that is represented by activity. And you all contain both expressions. The denial of this creates, to some degree, a resistance, and in denying this will allow individuals to express it in many ways, one of which is the breaking down of their own resistance. But the other idea altogether that is being explored is the fact fundamentally that you create your own reality. For it is not, as you say, terminal—not inherently. Individuals believe that it is, and this is why they are experiencing it. The moment they understand they, quote-unquote, have it, they buy along with that a bill of goods that it is, in that sense, terminal, and therefore fulfill their own prophecy. This is broadcast on your radio, broadcast on your television, in your newspapers and magazines every single day to reinforce this belief: “Here is more evidence, here is more evidence.” And individuals in tandem create more evidence. But the bottom line is that you create your own reality, and that reality is a reflection of you, not something that you exist within and the forces within it can get you. So it is also a direct symbol of the idea that reality can creep in and attack you, and it is also, in that sense, a result of individuals feeling they need to defend themselves against whatever. And therefore, that statement, “the need for defense,” is the same statement as saying, “I believe an attack is imminent.” So there are many different points of view that come into play, many different ways that individuals will utilize viewing their empowerment and disempowerment. This is merely a symbol of it. And you will find coming out of the woodwork more and more individuals who, quote-unquote, cure themselves, generally through what you call meditation and visualization. Does this make sense, or is this too simple?
Asker
No. One moment. Are you still there?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Oh, I’m here. Yes.
Asker
Does that make sense?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Yes, it does make sense.
Asker
Thank you. All right. Ice. Hi.
Asker
Elan
Elan
And to you, greetings.
Asker
What about cancer? Now we just talked about… you just talked about AIDS.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in very many ways it is similar, in that you will create a symbol that corresponds to the belief that something that does not belong can slip in there. In this case, individuals will actually, quote-unquote, mutate their own cells to be foreign within their own body. But it is a point of view. Now, there are very many differing reasons that individuals will create that symbol. In general, a symbol such as that will force you to either look at issues or physically die. So individuals will often then, taking having backed themselves seemingly into a corner, the opportunities to look at the beliefs that they perpetuated that resulted in the reflection of the disease. And if they are willing to allow that symbol to serve them, to glean why they created that symbol, and create new symbols to perform the same purpose, then that particular manifestation or symbol no longer has a reason to hang around. So this is where you will find that many individuals have what you call miraculous recovery when they look at the underlying issues, when they look at the message that the messenger of the, in this case, cancer is delivering. When you ignore the message, concentrate on the messenger, you reinforce the messenger, the cancer. When you look at everything as a symbol and a reflection within your reality and allow it to deliver the message, and then act upon what you have learned, there is no longer the reason to have the symbol to, in that way, obnoxiously tell you something you are denying. Does that make sense?
Asker
Thank you. Oh, thank you. You’ve heard several people who’ve had AIDS as well as cancer say, prior to dying, that they’re going to beat it, that they think that there’s no way that they’re going to let it take their lives.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense, you may understand that they create an adversarial interaction, an adversarial dynamic with the messenger. So that is not the same as allowing it to deliver its message, and in a sense is a reinforcement of a staunch denial. It is not the messenger against you. If you set it up that way, in general, if the messenger is what you call terminal illness, you will simply appear to lose. But that is not the same. “I refuse to allow this to beat me” is not at all the same as “How does this serve me exactly as it is?” Do you understand the distinction?
Asker
Yes. Where does the power of positive thinking come into play when it comes to…?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in this particular instance, positivity is simply willing to glean the positive reflection from every symbol. All symbols being neutral contain 100% potential for negative outcome and 100% potential—though this may seem to be impossible, it is no less true—100% potential for positive outcome. Your particular experience will depend on your approach: negative or positive.
Asker
Thank you. Oh, thank you. Sharing. I’d like to ask you a few questions. Okay. In UFO magazine again, um, they talk about extraterrestrials who are going to come back to the, or going to come to the Earth, and the Earth is being prepared for them because they were dying on their planet. Is there any truth in this?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Perhaps you may understand that there have been certain difficulties that have arisen within the historical, shall I say, presentation of some of these beings, but largely this is, shall I say, over-exaggerated and is not by any means the only reason that they are interacting with you. Perhaps you may understand that there are difficulties within their race, but perhaps to say they are dying is a bit inaccurate.
Asker
So you’re talking about Reticulum. Um, well, are they going to come here actually to live?
Asker
Elan
Elan
That is not the, shall I say, overall idea. But you will understand that they are most likely some of the first that will interact openly with you.
Asker
I understand they’re going to interact, but are they going to inhabit this planet so with us?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, there may be instances of it, but that is not, shall I say, the point of the interaction. No. Your atmosphere, in that sense, is, shall I say, a bit different than theirs, and they would not be completely comfortable on an ongoing basis.
Asker
The article talks about the Earth being prepared for them. Well, is the Earth being prepared in any way for them?
Asker
Elan
Elan
It depends how you look at it. Individuals are exploring, coming to realizations, attracting to themselves many things. The idea of the knowledge that your society has of the existence of the extraterrestrials is beginning to be disseminated in one form or another. So perhaps you can say, from one point of view, it is a style of preparation. But you are not being prepared; you are preparing yourselves in whatever form that takes for you. Okay. Well, in um, there is no outside force influencing you, as we have shared. It is simply culmination of timing.
Asker
There’s a new book out called Silent Invasion by Ellen Crystal, and in the book she talks about noises in the fields, and she thinks they’re preparing the Earth underground. There’s grinding noise.
Asker
Elan
Elan
That is not our perspective. There are differing, shall I say, releases, establishing of balances, particular pressures within your planet. That is far more simply your planet’s own state of balance, your planet’s own state of transferring its own energy. One moment. Are you through?
Asker
I want to ask a per-question, and then I’ll go on because it relates to this.
Asker
Elan
Elan
All right. Well, there will be but a few interactions, and then we will pause for a break and then resume. Do proceed.
Asker
The purpose there… uh, they would be interacting with us. Is it to make their race stronger?
Asker
Elan
Elan
To some degree, you will understand that to be part of the reason. Yes.
Asker
That’s it. Thank you. All right. One more. I’d like to ask you a question about myself. All right. Okay. When I had the experience and I saw my future self, after that for months I heard this terrible grinding moan. And this… it… this art… this book reminded me of what I experienced. Coming from the sound, I live in the sound every night like about 4:00 in the morning, and I would go down there, and it was a deafening sound. Go down where? To the water. It seemed to be coming from the water. Um, there was no activity at all, all the lights were out, and I just couldn’t understand it. Um, and so when I read this in the book, it seemed maybe the same thing was happening.
Asker
Elan
Elan
It is our perception that they are different occurrences, and for now, that is all we shall say.
Asker
All right. Yeah. Thanks.
Asker
Elan
Elan
At this time, we will pause for a short break of 10 to 15 of your minutes and resume contact at that time.
Asker
All right. I’ll say continue. Sharing. Um, hi. How are you?
Asker
Elan
Elan
And to you, greetings. Perfect, as are you.
Asker
Thank you. Um, about six… you’re welcome. About six years ago, I had a dream in which, um, I said to somebody, “Oh yeah, my daughter was beamed up onto a spaceship,” and you know, I was just talking about it like I was talking about what I had for dinner that night. And I was just wondering if… well, do you expect that I will find this so unusual?
Asker
Elan
Elan
No. But you may understand the following to answer perhaps more directly: because societally individuals are more, shall I say, open-minded in the phase of your reality you call dream reality, this will offer for many of us opportunities to interact with you on these levels. Now, from our perspective, these levels are no less real than this waking dream, though the rules may be a bit different. You will understand that what is referred to as the Reticulum society, one of the extraterrestrial societies that you in general will associate with the phenomenon you call abductions (which we call temporary detainments)—their reality, though close to the frequency of your own reality, is slightly out of phase with your reality. And when you create a common reality, a common experience, very often, even when individuals are quote-unquote awake, there is a dreamlike quality to the interaction, for in a sense the individuals are slightly, shall I say, adjusted to be able to meet on this common frequency. So in many ways, you may understand, for many of us, what you call your sleeping dream reality will be closer to our own reality and therefore far easier to communicate with you in. So in that instance, it was representative of a communication, and it was also representative of the fact that on that level, it is not that unusual to you either.
Asker
So you’re saying that I actually had that conversation with a Reticulum, for example?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in that particular instance, not necessarily. We were using that as an example. But there was, shall I say, extraterrestrial influence in the interaction. You were communicating on what you would call other levels, as many of you do, not only with what you call other dimensions of experience but also with each other.
Asker
Okay. And um, I did that. There’s… I did that. “There’s no place like home.” Um, meditation.
Asker
Elan
Elan
All right. For those present, that is simply an interaction whereby we, in that sense, led what you would call visualization onto one of our mothercraft, which will represent a very large cylindrical spacecraft approximately 1 to 10 miles in length, that will then house many other smaller, what we will sometimes call scoutcraft. Do proceed.
Asker
And while I was there, I had this vision that I was taking a baby out of the river, and um, we looked into each other’s eyes, and I said to this baby, “Do you want me to be your mother?” and he said, “Yes, yes.” And I was just wondering if you had any idea of what that…
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense, you may understand this to represent possible or probable future realities. It is not contemporary to your own time stream necessarily, but is also illustrative of the fact that you have complete choice and make the decision to interact with us in what you call future lives or not.
Asker
Okay. So that… uh, that so that is an option should you make the decision to do so. So that baby was representative of a possibility from not from the Earth?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Ice correct.
Asker
Okay. Is there something else?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, what in that dream I had a… I said, you know, “Oh yeah, my daughter was beamed up onto a spaceship.” Was she? I mean, the idea is that you were recognizing that there are communications taking place. It need not necessarily be, as you say, so nuts and bolts. That is one of your societal representations of such, shall I say, interactions and meetings: what you call “Beam me up, Scotty.”
Asker
So, um, am I having some kind of relationship with these… with some other people, some extraterrestrials, that I’m not consciously aware of now?
Asker
Elan
Elan
To cut through this, I will simply say that many of you will interact with our society directly in your dream realities, and that is what you have been doing for quite some time. Oh, but why are you surprised by this?
Asker
I guess I’m not really. Oh, thank you. Is interesting. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
Asker
Elan
Elan
All right. Ace. Are you through? Mhm. Greetings. Proceed.
Asker
So what you’re saying is that every time we have a dream about extraterrestrials or a UFO, that it’s somehow communication?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, not necessarily, but many times it is. It can also be a symbolic representation of things you are viewing within yourself that you consider to be most alien, literally. So it can be one or the other. It can represent literal contact, literal interactions, and it can also, in that sense, represent symbolic reflections within you, things that you are exploring. It depends. Many times what you will find you are interacting with in your dreams are externalized different points of view and versions of yourself.
Asker
Yeah. For example, I recently had a dream where I saw a spacecraft landing on Earth in the midst of a large group of people, and people were just running everywhere in pandemonium.
Asker
Elan
Elan
And people were… that is what you would, perhaps you could call, a parallel reality which will not play out in your own reality. You may understand, though, that you were playing out one of the underlying fears, archetypally, society that your particular civilization will create as one of the possibilities of when we interact. And that is not our desire. We, in that sense, await—perhaps you can say, not that we are hanging out here waiting for you, but await the day where you will validate and integrate and view us as equals. And perhaps you can say this is one of the prerequisites to our physical interaction. We are not coming down to save anyone. No one is drowning. You are all just fine. Thank you. And when you are willing to act that way and take that responsibility, we can then meet you on equal ground, equal level. We have nothing to offer you that you do not already contain, and simply wish to interact with you in love as equals for the mere experience of doing so and no other hidden agenda.
Asker
How can we distinguish between extraterrestrials communicating to us through our dreams and our own subconscious?
Asker
Elan
Elan
For now, if you are to find that the information that you derive in what you call such a dream is positive, empowering, unconditionally loving, for all intents and purposes it will represent some type of communication or your willingness to at least entertain the notion that such a thing is possible. So it is, perhaps you can say, in many ways an invitation that you place.
Asker
Thank you. Ice. Female than male. I’ve been reading quite a bit lately about ascension.
Asker
Elan
Elan
All right. In what way? In what context?
Asker
Well, that we’re going to move from the third and fourth dimension right into the fifth, and so is the planet Earth.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, you will not skip fourth directly into the fifth. Fourth will represent empowered, more limitless physical experience. And believe me, you would not want to miss that, because as you begin to integrate and expand, your frequency literally is, shall I say, increased. The ascension, or the moving up, refers to a, shall I say, shift in your personal frequency. So it is not literally being taken up in that sense, and you will still maintain a degree of attachment to a physical reality, though again your exploration of it will not be from the perspective of separation and limitation.
Asker
Okay. And the planet Earth is also going to go through this transformation into the fifth dimension?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, again, not skipping forth, but you will perhaps move in tandem. Now, it will be up to you whether you move in tandem or not. Many will choose to do so.
Asker
And what happens if you don’t?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Then you have the infinite number of other possibilities of, shall I say, experiences to explore. For remember, you are an infinite being, and focusing in on this reality only, you are assuming a finite point of view. There are, perhaps you may understand, many more options than you are allowing yourself to now see.
Asker
So there won’t be a need to have an evacuation, per se, of the Earth?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Oh, no, no, no, no. The idea is that in doing so, this would be a statement by us that you need our help, that you cannot create it yourself. It would be a reinforcement of your own disempowerment, and that is not our purpose. That would not be treating you like an equal. We understand that you create your own reality, and we allow you to experience the results of those creations. It is not that you are only allowed to explore the positive. No. All That Is is also unconditionally loving and allows you to explore anything. Perhaps you may understand it would not be fair to interfere with the results of negative choices any more than it would be to interfere with the results of positive ones. Now, this is, shall I say, a common misconception upon your planet, and there is the idea that this ascension will be a physical uplifting, but it is an upliftment of your vibratory frequency, which results in you expressing yourself as still a physical being but more expanded. Your abilities will seem to expand. You will begin to, in that sense, have more of a loose relationship of what you call energy and matter, and in that sense, at some point in the development, be able to, shall I say, interact with energy and matter, seemingly as you say, producing things from thin air. You would not want to skip this.
Asker
Can you say that’s in the fourth dimension?
Asker
Elan
Elan
That is what you are on, perhaps you can say, the cusp of right now. You are now, shall I say, exiting or beginning to transit from third-density reality, which is in this octave of reality represented as a limited, operative, non-integrative physical reality where there is the apparency you are within the reality. Fourth allows you to expand your physical expression, still experience it, but only create the effects of positive through choice, through desire, and allow yourself to express limitlessness and what you sometimes then refer to as mastery, but not in a dominating way, simply in allowing your energy to flow effortlessly.
Asker
Thank you. Oh, thank yourself. You have done it all. Elon, has there ever been any human beings on your planet?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, actually, yes. But being that my planet would seem to exist in your future, they would be humans that have not yet been born upon your planet. Now, perhaps this does not make much sense, but the idea is a few generations down the line, there are individuals who will eventually visit our planet. Now, it is not all together out of the question that some of you will have that opportunity, but it will depend upon the timing in which you choose to view us as an equal, which will allow us to again interact with you face-to-face rather than one time removed as you are seeing here now. Understand also that in what you call your dreams, your nighttime sleeping dreams, you can also visit our society, visit our planet literally. It will seem just as real as one of your real-seeming dreams. And all that it requires is, when you are, as you say, dreaming, when you simply realize you are dreaming in the dream, then you may understand that you are creating that dream. For you know analytically that you’re lying in your bed, but yet in the dream here you are standing in a room or whatever. Once you realize you’re dreaming in the dream, you can change the dream, for dreams are a result of your belief. You believe something, and immediately the scene appears around you. In this reality, when you are awake, you have an idea, you do something, you perform a series of actions, you get a result, and then you get your reality. In the dream reality, you simply think or shift your belief, and the whole reality seems to change around you. This is why many times one dream seems to go from one dream into another that has nothing to do with it. You will wake up and say, “Why did I not find that unusual in the dream?” That is because whatever you believe in dreams immediately can be experienced without having to act in between. What I am getting at is: when you are in a dream and realizing you are dreaming, all you simply need do is think of me and think of how it feels when you are interacting with me, how I allow you to feel. That will, in a sense, dial you in, if you wish, to our phone number, to our address, and you can actually then have the experience of physically seeming to visit our planet. Do you understand?
Asker
Yes. Have you had such a dream where in the dream you knew you were dreaming?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Not quite sure. All right. You will. So simply pay attention. We thank you.
Asker
Thank you. Is that all?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Yes. If you wish to share again, please do.
Asker
Shing Ma. Greetings again for the first time.
Asker
Elan
Elan
And to you.
Asker
My question pertains to consensus reality versus individual reality.
Asker
Elan
Elan
All right. You are speaking about your own individual consciousness versus the mass consciousness. For there is also within the electromagnetism of your planet, the electromagnetic field of your planet, a mass mentality which also presents itself as a single individual but is made up of the combination of all of your, shall I say, consciousnesses. You proceed.
Asker
There have been isolated societies on our planet that have had abilities which most would consider superhuman. When the isolation disappeared, then so did the ability. In general… not always, not always true. Um, a society that could run faster the older they got, for example, as one example. All right. Um, it leads me to wonder: what power does consensus reality have over what individual reality I would prefer?
Asker
Elan
Elan
It has only as much power as the individual assigns. So therefore, many or most of you assume your laws of physics, for instance gravity, are the laws, and therefore you will not, shall I say, sincerely entertain the notion that it is simply an agreement you have made. Now, the individuals who are willing to entertain the notion that this is not a law, this is not the way it is, this is an agreement, and I no longer wish to participate in the agreement, are the ones that have demonstrated such things as what you call physical levitation, which has occurred many times upon your planet in many forms, not only individuals but many individuals again, having, perhaps you can say, a mini, shall I say, transformation of the mass upon agreement, and thereby able to levitate large and heavy objects.
Asker
Then being successful at an individual reality over a consensus reality would possibly shift you to another Earth, something like that?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, perhaps in many ways there will be that apparency, but individuals who do not wish to variate or divert from the agreement will not be there to perceive it and will not believe you when you tell them you did it.
Asker
Thank you. Oh, thank you. Shutting. By the way, greetings.
Asker
Elan
Elan
And to you.
Asker
You mentioned if they allow that information. Now I understand that back in 1947, they, uh, when they acquired a spaceship… well, remains, perhaps you can say, not intact. Yes. But they were live, uh, extraterrestrials. From that well, temporarily, you may understand, in that incident, they did not live very long. Some were dead upon, shall I say, impact. Was that… was that two spaceships colliding?
Asker
Elan
Elan
No. That is what you would call interference with the guidance system of the craft by what you call a relatively new invention at that time: your radar. And in a sense, you may understand that the craft was at that time, due to a slight imbalance, hit by lightning.
Asker
And where did it crash?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, there are several areas. Perhaps you can say, as a reference, your New Mexico area will do as a reference. Now, there were two craft in that general time frame. Two craft. Ice, they did not collide, but there were two separate incidences close together in time frame, but different places. Well, in the general same vicinity. That was, shall I say, a time of what you would call the development and testing and ongoing explorations of your atomic weaponry. That and what you call your space explorations are some of the things that interest us.
Asker
See, I’m… my wife is reading a book about this, and it said that they did communicate with the extraterrestrials, and they were getting some knowledge of energy.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, the idea is that there was later on a communication made that was, perhaps you can say, the icebreaker. But the reason that they are keeping this from us… they don’t want us to have that because that would be free…
Asker
Well, that it would more represent your own planet and your own interests that are keeping anything from you. It is not the beings themselves.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Our world leaders are keeping it from us not because we’re afraid of them, but because there are several reasons. They have, in that sense, what you would call a fear for their own job security in the changing scenarios that might occur sociologically with such knowledge. There is also, to some degree, although perhaps you can say this is a bit more dated, again, the fear of what was earlier referred to as pandemonium and panic. So to some degree, they do believe they are acting in your best interest.
Asker
I thought they were mostly acting at greed.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, again, there are overtones of that as well, but it would be inaccurate to say only that. We thank you.
Asker
Sh. Okay. Um, I’d like to ask you something else about UFOs. All right. About ships using clouds to camouflage themselves.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Ice, as we have discussed already, this is quite rare. It is not a common occurrence. We do not hide, in that sense, behind clouds, for in that sense we would need to make an adjustment for you to see us in the first place, so there is no reason to do so. There are many cloud formations in your society that are very ship-like, and one particular type of cloud manifestation you call lenticular cloud is very, very saucer- or disk-like. But these are not necessarily, and most often are not, representations of craft and are simply many times reflections to individuals beholding them of the concept, but not craft themselves.
Asker
Do any extraterrestrial societies use them as camouflage?
Asker
Elan
Elan
It is not our perception that that is generally done. Now, you may understand that when we had spoke earlier about altering your vibration to translocate in time and space, there is a field that we surround our craft with called an isolation field. This allows us to maintain our vibration and isolate the portion, again, that consists of where we are in time and space, and reinsert a new coordinate without affecting the rest of the overall vibration of who we are. This field round and about our craft is called an isolation field, for it isolates us from, shall I say, linear realities. Now you may understand that sometimes that may appear as a gray mist or fog around the craft, but this would only be momentary. It is not that it would linger in one area covered in such a way.
Asker
Can we see into the isolation field, or do we see through it?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense, perhaps you can say you would see through it, but only after the craft had manifested in your reality.
Asker
So we don’t… we don’t see the craft at all, or we just… we see through the craft?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, if the craft is attuned and aligned and synchronized with your time stream, you would see it. If also you had within you the agreement to see it.
Asker
So the isolation field around the craft can be here and we might not see it at all?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Perhaps you are misunderstanding. The isolation field is a very short-lived effect. The point is that you may, in a sense, see a craft momentarily with a haze around it, but it is not in general that you will see it as being covered by cloud. And many of the photographs are simply just that: clouds.
Asker
Okay. Um, well, I guess from my perspective, the photographs that you have showed the channel would not represent my craft.
Asker
Elan
Elan
That assurance? No, they would not represent craft in my particular understanding. Now, they may represent symbols to the beholder of communications at that time, which then by, perhaps you can say, a form of assignment would carry the weight of seeming that way. But from my own nuts-and-bolts point of view, I or a member of my society was not there.
Asker
Okay. In, um, uh, this new book Silent Invasion, she talks about triangular craft that she has seen in New York, Pine Bush, I think it is. Is that your society?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, there are other societies that have such crafts. Some of them will be represented by us.
Asker
Are you there now? Are you in… are you making visits to New York now? Your society?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Not recently. Myself? You may understand, again, that for the purposes of identification, I will refrain.
Asker
Okay. So, um, could I… would it be possible for you to answer this question? Um, what was the purpose of all these sightings in Kindlish? What was the reason on the extraterrestrial side, if you were to ascribe an overall purpose?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Inciting? It is simply that more individuals now are creating the awareness of something that has been occurring upon your planet for many years. There are, perhaps you can say, many more craft there than individuals will allow themselves to perceive. But as you shift your viewpoint, as you entertain the notion of such a thing, as you begin to allow your perceptive range to increase, there will be more and more the likelihood and more and more the occurrence of these sightings. There is an overall increase now in sightings upon and around your entire planet, not just in that area. So that is simply one example.
Asker
Are you here just to make us more aware, or is there any other reason?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, we are here for many reasons, as many again as there are individuals in our society. I am here to, perhaps you can say, break ground in interacting with you in a very non-threatening way. I am also here to allow you to come to grips with the power that you contain within yourself. For expressing yourself in that way puts you more of the wavelength or frequency, so to speak, that will allow me to then physically interact with you. But we are mainly here because you have invited us, perhaps on what you would call an unconscious level, but to, in that sense, share with you how our reality functions. For you are now ready to function in that mode as individuals and, in many ways, as a society.
Asker
When we do meet face-to-face, since there’s a difference in vibration, does it… do you have to come down to our vibration?
Asker
Elan
Elan
The idea is that we will, perhaps in many ways, meet you in the middle. But from our point of view, we will downstep our particular frequency so that you can perceive us.
Asker
Does that do any harm to you?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Oh, no. Nothing in my reality would do harm to me. It is not something that I would attract. There are no accidental deaths in my society.
Asker
Is it hard for you to do that?
Asker
Elan
Elan
No. It is simply, perhaps you can say, a mental… since we are linked telepathically with our craft as well… push of the button, so to speak. An intention. Very simple. But it does require the agreement from your end to perceive and, in that sense, participate with us, for we only do things by agreement.
Asker
Only. Okay. Thanks. Oh, thank you. Ace. Female. Do you know if it’s possible to travel faster than the speed of light?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Perhaps you would create the effect, in apparency, in your style of physical reality, that that would be considered a mass-agreed-upon barrier. So the apparency is that that is as fast as you can go. Now, there are realities, because you can imagine that there are, that exist whereby that boundary would seemingly be able to be surpassed, but they would make little sense to your reality. So in a sense, you may understand it is a mass-agreed-upon limit.
Asker
And do you know whether or not our sun has a dark star? Poss… what we would refer to as Nemesis?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, you may understand that all stars are analogues, and what you perceive as the star is one presentation of a multi-dimensional effect that is perceived in many different realities. So in one of those realities, perhaps yes, it would be perceived in that way, though we would not choose the terminology Nemesis.
Asker
Okay. Thank you. Oh, thank you. M. Umon. When I received, uh, in Kansas, your craft in Alot… ah, I knew this was coming up. Do proceed. Uh, I did perceive your craft as a cloud at first that kept up with the car.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense, but we were not hiding. We were simply acclimating in that case, and that would be one of the exceptions, which is why I expected you would speak up. So that was a longer… uh, process that did not occur as long as you are remembering. It was quite short.
Asker
I see. Now, is it necessary for you to attune to our vibrational frequency in order to perceive us?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense, in order to interact with you in this way, it is automatic, and I do not perceive that I am doing anything in order to perceive you. Physically? Yes, yes. So in order for your craft to make visual observations on our planet, you would have to be within a particular bandwidth of reality, and it can still be outside your perceptive range and still within the overall range of your reality. So there is the possibility of perceiving you without being visible to you.
Asker
Oh, I see. And do you have the instruments that allow you to observe phenomena that are not at the vibrational frequency that you’re attuned to?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, yes. But perhaps you would not recognize them as instruments, per se, for they, in that sense, are attuned. And again, this is quite colloquial to what you would call our brain. So what you would understand is, rather than there being a view screen, there is the activation of what you would call the center of the brain that processes vision and then provides a three-dimensional image directly, which might be perceived as me as being seen but is actually being thought.
Asker
Getting back to the idea of transcending the speed of light, warp drive capability as portrayed in Star Trek. Certainly it’s a possibility because we can conceive it. Would it involve a type of isolation field?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense, yes. And that is one of the ways that it would be transcended: only whereby the inside of the craft would seemingly have a different creation of the stream and flow of time than the outside of the craft. So yes, very perceptive.
Asker
Now, is that variance between the frequency of the craft and the surrounding physical space what allows the craft to travel through areas where there’s dense stars, etc., without interacting with them physically?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, again, understand that our particular mode of travel is not that linear. Now, when we appear within a particular reality, we can then travel in a linear way. But were we to, for instance, explore a star, there is also the possibility of inserting ourselves slightly out of phase with the star itself, so therefore not be affected by the matter of the star and be able to, perhaps you could say, explore it far closer than you would ever deem possible.
Asker
Well, if you will, I’m referring more specifically to the mode of travel that’s depicted in the Star Trek series.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, perhaps you can say that that is not completely accurate to our understanding of what will be accessible to you within your foreseeable future.
Asker
I see. So in fact, that is not the way that we’re going to develop in terms of travel. It’s not really a possibility.
Asker
Elan
Elan
There is more of a likelihood that you will begin to glean and experiment with our style of travel for any, shall I say, significant traversing of any interstellar distance. So in other words, in a linear way, you are limited to exploring your neighborhood. Now, in your society, while you have the technology to create an isolation field around the craft and change your time-space coordinates, do you, as individuals, have the ability to project such an isolation field around yourselves mentally such that you can appear somewhere else in another time?
Asker
Absolutely.
Asker
Elan
Elan
And in societies that we interacted that more would understand that symbol, this is what we do. In your particular society, which is exploring technology, we simply, shall I say, many times for your benefit, will utilize that particular tool or expression. But we understand that we are creating the effect, and the technology is merely an external symbol of that creation. So it will depend upon who we are interacting with and what will be acceptable to them for the interaction.
Asker
So if you wanted to appear on the surface of a planet, would you be able to just be there as opposed to beaming down via a transporter?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, in a sense. Though in general, I will still travel in my craft. There have been instances whereby I and many other individuals have done what you are saying. However, it is not something we will choose to do upon your planet, for it goes against the grain of the agreement and would, in that sense, perhaps you can say, result in individuals, shall I say, fearing the loss of privacy. But you do have the capacity to move from the craft to the planet surface without using a transporter, per se.
Asker
Ice. I see. Now, uh, in an earlier interaction, you gave me an instruction for breathing: breathing in one nostril, breathing out the other nostril.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Ice, but this was, in that sense, relevant to you, your own history, and your own understandings. It is by no means the only way to do so, simply something that rang a bell with you.
Asker
Yes. Now, I have been using that, and I find it… I do it every morning, and I find it really helps me to focus. It helps me to focus in the moment. It gets me out of my sleepy state and into my clear-intention waking state. Although I’ve not experienced the phenomena of the sweating and the vibrations and the like, could… is there any addition?
Asker
Elan
Elan
It is our suggestion that you also do this from time to time in the evening rather than the morning. For there is, in the morning, that idea that you will be moving into your reality. In the evening, you have more leeway.
Asker
I see. Um, can you give me an idea of the time frame? You know, how long I have to do this in order to get the effect of the sweating and the vibrations?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, again, understand that it is not a goal to do so, but that upon connecting in that way, that that may be some of the physical effects initially due to your own resistance. Now, you can bypass this altogether by simply going with the flow. They are resistive effects.
Asker
Now, you said there would be a phenomenon at some point as I practice this technique. Would you like to comment on that phenomenon at this time?
Asker
Elan
Elan
I already did. That is something that you will discover, and I would not in any way endeavor to take away from you the joy of that surprise.
Asker
Now, Alota has assured me every morning that we are traveling at night, and I begun to make the clear intention at night before I go to sleep that I will do such travel and that I will have complete and total recall.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, perhaps it may move you to simply understand that your recall will occur where and when necessary and not one bit more or less. So begin to trust: if I do not remember it, this is not the time to need to remember it. If I do, well, obviously now’s the time. Do not fixate upon it or utilize it as a marker that you are succeeding or failing.
Asker
Thank you. Is there anything I can do to enhance either my ability to recall or my readiness to recall?
Asker
Elan
Elan
When you awaken with any sense of an experience, apply that experience into your waking life. Midwife any inspiration that you derive from the sleeping dream into the waking dream. You will begin to blur the lines between the two and facilitate your process. In the meantime, L, thank you very much.
Asker
Oh, thank you. I have done nothing. And thank you for interacting with me. Shedding. Ice.
Asker
Elan
Elan
I’m having a little hard time to form the question because it’s difficult to put it in words. But many people say, if we create our reality, how come we don’t know about it? How come we don’t seem to have the control? And the agreements, if they were made on some other level, what’s the use? Shouldn’t we know about them?
Elan
Elan
Well, first of all, when you acknowledge that you create your own reality and begin to entertain the idea, many of these things become more apparent. When you use your creations rather than deny them, when you take what you have created and transform it to the positive, many of these reasons, many of these agreements, become obvious. Where you seem, in that sense, to cut yourself off from knowledge of the agreement is through the self-judgment, through the denial. So it is a matter of that. Also, understand, as I have shared many times, the very valid question comes up: “Well, why would I want to forget 99.99% of who I am? What’s the use of that?” Fair question. When you are all-knowing and all-seeing and contain it all, there is a nuance, a level of experience you cannot experience, and that is experiencing something as if it is new: learning, surprise, discovery. You need to play, perhaps you can say, hide-and-seek with your consciousness in order to create the apparency of the joy of discovery itself. So many of these agreements that you are discussing are yet to be discovered, and part of the reason that you are playing, perhaps you can say, an elaborate shell game with your agreements is for the joy that you experience when you lift the shell. Part and parcel of this particular expression of reality is not knowing. But you can, in that sense, still display and develop total trust even though you do not know. Then there is not an urgency to know. Then there is not an effortful, dominating desire to know. And then, through releasing that, shall I say, imperative need to know, you then make yourself far more receptive to knowing. Does that answer the question?
Asker
Oh, yes. Partially. Um, I think I’m talking about the agreements where the result is not very pleasant for the people, and then it’s difficult for them to understand.
Asker
Elan
Elan
There, in general, are not agreements that result in negative or unpleasant realities. That is your choice. That is your creation in the moment. The agreements between you are completely neutral, and if they were to be interpreted according to service to you, would be interpreted as positive as well as having the potential for negative. So it is not that something that happens negatively to you in your life is so much the result of the agreement itself, but as your perceptions and subsequent actions due to your perception of an agreement. The agreements are far more neutral and general than that.
Asker
Thank you. And to you as well.
Asker
Elan
Elan
There will be but a few more sharings.
Asker
Sharing. A personal one. Um, I find it’s very difficult looking at myself, something that I do that I don’t like. I tend to hide it.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, that is why it keeps coming around. That is why it grows larger and nastier. That is also the paradox. It is safe to think anything. It is safe to look at anything within you. Thoughts only become things when you act upon them. So thinking is safe. Acknowledging, reflecting, is perfectly safe. If you act with those negative reflections, that is what will create a negative effect. But there is nothing dangerous or disastrous about looking at an idea, again, particularly when you are not acting, in simply reflecting or examining ideas within you. But I again remind you that only can you transform them once you acknowledge and own them. So perhaps you may wish to redefine that: once you own a belief that you have, you can change it. Because it then equalizes it to all other beliefs through that acknowledgement. Denial gives it more attention, more weight, more propensity to choose the very thing you are denying. When you acknowledge something, it lightens it up. It equalizes it to all other choices. Then you can look at what your other choices are, and then, in making a decision to have a more positive belief, look at what actions having the new belief would yield and perform the actions of the positive belief in full acknowledgment of the old negative belief. Then it changes. So first step is that acknowledgement, and you need not be nervous as long as you do not, when you are looking at the belief, go act out and do something. For whatever you are believing in that moment, while you are acting, those beliefs will have nuances on those actions. So if you are ascribing to a negative belief and performing action, there are always negative nuances in that action that yield negative effects. If you acknowledge the negative belief, look at the positive belief, extrapolate in your imagination how the actions of the new belief would be performed, and do the new actions in acknowledgment of the old belief, you are now creating a new effect through the same old mechanism.
Asker
And using that to assist people in healing? When they… you see, a lot of times you say that they need to learn something from the disease.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, not that they need to, but if they allow the messenger to deliver the message, it no longer hangs around to be obnoxious. Everything has a purpose. Insisting people to recognize who they are being, to assist them to understand that everything is an external reflection of the reality you create internally. That if you treat things as a creation, you will see how that creation serves you rather than what it is doing to you. Yes. That willingness to dive into why you created the symbol is your doorway to liberating yourself from that symbol.
Asker
Is there a pattern to the symbols that we use?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, yes. You will all have your own patterns. There will sometimes be general, mass-agreed-upon, what you sometimes refer to as archetypal patterns, but you will, in general, create your own versions of them as well. Such as a bad back would take you to some… well, that is simply, again, a symbol of a particular idea. And many times, if it is your back, it will be a symbol of your exploration of feeling that your support system is being undermined, since that is one of the reflections of what that represents. Your skeletal structure is your physical support system. And every symbol is always an analogy of an idea or a concept within you directly.
Asker
Thank you. And to you. Shon. Nice. Elon. Our style of civilization has gone through major shifts throughout our history. We’ve had the Industrial Age, and then we had the Atomic Age. Is the next revolutionary step the Consciousness Age?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, it is already upon you. And yes, you will understand that your technology eventually is a reflection of your consciousness, not something which defines it. And understand also that only can you technologically make such advances when first the blueprint is laid down, when first the thoughts are entertained and allowed in consciousness. So a transformation in consciousness would literally also have preceded each of the before-mentioned, as you have called them, revolutions.
Asker
Is this going to open up the possibility of a style of technology that’s more similar to your own, whether there’s the interfacing between mentality—what you call physical mentality—and machinery?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Is now, to some degree, a precursor of this style of what you call connection. To some degree, what you call your virtual reality. But there will then be what you call a type of sympathetic vibration or resonance set up within what you would call certain frequencies of the brain. This is several years down the line, at least according to our perception.
Asker
Now, will the practical demonstration and experience of this type of technology and interfacing consciousness and machines take place in our lifetime?
Asker
Elan
Elan
There is the likelihood that at least the initial stages of it are most likely to occur, and it is possible more than that. It will simply depend.
Asker
And will the agreed-upon reality on the planet take a radical shift?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, it already has. Already is. And from our perception, will continue to do so.
Asker
And who is actually going to stay here to enjoy that style of existence? Or… let me phrase it this way: the population that’s here on the planet, they’re not all going to stay and enjoy that type of transition in technology.
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, perhaps that will be an apparency. But you will understand whatever reality you are within will seem to have complete continuity with this reality, and therefore there will seem to be logical reasons why certain individuals will not be there.
Asker
I see. And is this going to open up the whole area of interfacing with cultures from other planets?
Asker
Elan
Elan
Well, as you open up to your own individual selves and begin to acknowledge the portions you have formerly hidden within yourself, then things which are externally reflective as being hidden in your external reality will follow suit. And we are a representation of such an idea. So yes.
Asker
I see. Thank you very much.
Asker
Elan
Elan
And to you. At this timing, allow me to thank you all for your willing participation in this interaction on whatever level you choose to co-create this with me. When I suggest utilizing, as a tool for, perhaps you can say, transforming self-judgment, the statement “so what,” I am not suggesting that you use that in an invalidation way to your reality. Well, it doesn’t matter. No. But the point is, you need not create and continue to create, in the moment, momentum behind what you call self-judgment and, again, seemingly the resulting snowballing of judging yourself for judging: “Well, I am a very advanced being, and I should not be judging myself. My goodness, now I will judge myself because I am an advanced being who has slipped and judged themselves.” That simply compounds the judgment. That simply continues to bind you and result in continuing to deny your reality. Self-judgment is a tool that you use to contain and to continue to create the apparency of being separate from your environment, of being within your reality rather than the reality existing within you. So anytime you use “so what” to break the ice, anytime you use “so what” to realign yourself to who you choose to be rather than to assume and assert and continue to affirm who you do not choose to be—for each time you judge yourself, you are saying, “I am this,” and the “this” is something you do not prefer. “I am this,” and that “this” is something you do not prefer. Self-judgment perpetuates the very things you are judging yourself for. “So what” frees you up to remember to realign with who you choose to be, who you prefer to be, and then allows you, through willingness, to remove the conditions to loving yourself and no longer judging yourself when you do not fulfill those conditions, but realigning yourself upon the recognition that you have not fulfilled the conditions and allowing yourself to reign with your self-love. All That Is loves you unconditionally and eternally. Therefore, that is always something you can tap into. That is always something you can match. You can create your version of it. And it is always quite simple to simply say, “All right, all right, all right. I screwed up. I forgive myself. I won’t do it again. It is my intention to understand, from having recognized that I did not prefer to do that, to use that information in a positive way. And next time a similar set of circumstances comes up, no way. I tried that reality on. I no longer prefer it.” That is one of the options of sampling the many different aspects of your reality.

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