Equal Exchange Part 2

She reacted with a great deal of anger. She became vituperative at the least suggestion of abuse.

All right. Psychologically abused. This allows me to do so much from my point of view now. The most important thing it allows me to do is to possess that experience as a finished experience, a reconciled experience.

She came out in the end very wonderfully. She found a close friend. Her faith in life and in love was fully restored at the very end, even though her life had been in many senses very, very, very bitter and dark. Also, I feel because I now possess that consciousness more and more fully and a resolved consciousness, that I can be an extension of her desire as it exists in the non-physical, and that is to extend the hand of friendship and of love to other people—women and men who may have been abused and who are consequently experiencing themselves as very isolated.

Yes, yes, and thank you for the many interactions that have brought me to this fuller understanding of who I am.

Well, coincidentally with the reading of the autobiography, which I recommend to anyone interested in exploring the condition of women in very negative situations—coincidentally with this, I had a very tender relationship with an old friend.

Oh yes, yes. I felt an immediate affinity and affection for her, and we had a very fine time, though very brief, together—clarifying things, exchanging perspectives, and so forth. And she is perhaps the first example of a woman to whom I extended myself out of the consciousness of myself as Theodore and Francis, and who knows who else—yourself, others, and a more multiple context. Who knows really?

No.

The most relevant idea to, shall we say, this particular reunion will have to do with a life with which you are physically married in the imagery that comes along, shall we say, with this exploration. Is what you would label colonial America. For now, that will do.

It can be as subtle as any individual that you are in contact with in any given moment, for in that moment you are sharing your experience, you are sharing your reality with another aspect of yourself. So therefore, there is moment to moment, second to second soulmates. Generally, when people speak of this overall concept, they are referring to the idea of particular individuals with whom you choose over a consecutive period of timing to reincarnate. Now, very often this will be in differing styles of relationships, but again, in general, that is what individuals will mean. You can say in that way that there are individuals who tend to hang around, if you will, from life to life, and you can call them, so to speak, a soul family. But in a sense, you can say they are only bubbles within the overall bubble of your entire civilization. Anyone that you come in contact with is your soulmate for the moment that you are interacting with them. Was there something specific you are seeking?

But do understand that anybody that you have a strong affinity to, being that you’ve lived thousands—not just a few thousands—of lives, will generally have lived many, many lives with you. The reason there only seems to be a few is there are so many differing experiences that they simply have little relevance to this experience. So the ones that you will experience as bleeding through into this life only will do so if there is a specific relevance to what you are exploring right here, right now.

Yes, I’m willing.

Our particular understanding will be that you have, with at least the name reiterated in a sense, another life, and that was her name in that life. Is there some feeling or attraction that you have again to have you participate, rather than simply handing it over to you, as to what period in your historical past when thinking of her and perhaps substituting that name stands out?

Well, you have gotten quite a bit. So simply begin to allow yourself again in your own space to extrapolate upon it. Trust the mother-daughter feeling—that is a very distinct, discrete feeling. You are feeling it for a reason. And again, a bit ahead or, shall we say, aside from most individuals’ experiences, you have also been provided a name, so you can utilize that name as a meditative tool to tune you into that frequency.

Or later, whenever.

And to you, Shing.

Well, how exciting!

Nice touch.

And what have you found?

All right. Well, in those moments, why do you choose to not fully love and validate yourself? What is the nature of when you will invalidate yourself to that degree? For guilt is the total absence of self-love and self-worth.

Okay, yes, but are you not still providing these functions, though with a slightly different definition? You are still being of assistance to others, you are still interacting with others, you are still at least bringing home, as you have said, your own bacon. Well, therefore, as again you say in your slang, what’s the problem?

And therefore, being in your own element, you are of more use to them. So where does the guilt come in? What are you thinking? What do you feel when that particular emotion comes into play?

And that is her choice, and that is your choice. Well, let me broaden this into another point, if I may.

All right. So you’ve got to follow other excitement. This does not mean that you need change your overall intention, but simply you can utilize as feedback whether or not a particular thing that does excite you can be acted upon in that moment. So following what excites you from what is available need not exclude you still having the clear intention that the other thing excites you, but simply do not fixate or obsess upon it. And what will actually occur is the moment to moment following of the excitement will lead you into a different frame of reference whereby that will be one of the possibilities, should that remain your excitement. So this does not mean you need compromise what excites you—simply keep it as a clear intention and understand that the situation obviously allows you to focus in on other things to get you there.

Yes, but from whatever is interesting to you. All right, but we are simply speaking of, in any given moment, from what is available, what excites you the most from those choices—not comparing those choices to any other set of choices that is not obtainable in that moment. So it matters not if the degree of what’s available of your excitement is as great as the overall excitement thing, but simply that you do establish from what is available which one moves you the most. And you need not again put a stopper in that it must excite you as much as the thing that you cannot do right now.

There is no time frame upon it, for there are many variables which will work out or play out, shall we say, before we can make such a designation. But the idea is this gives you the opportunity to begin to hone in where you focus your attention. And even in the way that you are posing the question, you are suggesting that you are simply placating yourself in each and every moment, waiting for that exciting thing, rather than fully diving in to each moment choosing with your excitement. And again, if there is something you cannot act upon, not keep it out on the table constantly reaffirming that it is not happening, it is not happening. The attention that you place upon what you label to be your most exciting thing generally takes this form—rather than “it is happening, it is happening,” the attention upon it is the reaffirmation of the fact that it is not occurring. And this actually, in and of itself, perpetuates it continuing to not occur. When it is in a given moment one of the choices that is, when it will be. Obviously, the timing for now again: dive into what is available, not use it to distract yourself from what you’d prefer to be doing that you cannot act upon. Do you at least understand that distinction?

You are placing values upon things that something is better than another. The most exciting thing is better than what’s available to you right now. Now, that is simply a definition. If you label it that way, then you will have that experience, that each experience in the moment that you are choosing from your excitement pales in comparison to your overall excitement. But that is because you are labeling it rather than allowing yourself to dive into what is right there and use the excitement and move and act with that excitement on those things.

Yes, and we have mentioned that it may very well seem to have nothing to do with the most exciting thing. But because you keep that most exciting thing as an intention, when an opportunity does come into the space, so to speak, you will then have all the tools you need to immediately act upon it. And you will find that some of those tools will have come to you and been acquired by you through some of the other exciting things entirely unrelated—with certain skills, certain knowledge, certain resources. This is the type of trust we are speaking of: trusting in what excites you in the moment, that even if it seems not to be related to that thing, that it is somehow. And whether that somehow simply be that it makes you aware of certain ideas that when that exciting thing comes along, you will not have been able to have enjoyed it fully without those ideas—can be that subtle.

When you find yourself reaffirming that that thing is not happening, it is not happening, it is not happening—this is what the universe hears. This is what the universe understands that you believe. Therefore, you can actually be pushing it off into the future by again, when you identify with the concept, identifying it from the negative perspective as opposed to just keeping it as “my intention.”

Okay.

Okay, well, it has so far.

Oh, the last time we met in this location, I talked to you of my father who has Parkinson’s disease. And in the last three or four weeks—well, last four to six weeks—he was participating in a program through a university involving Sinemet, which is a drug that’s used to treat Parkinson’s patients. And he’s gotten, I think in my opinion and I think in his experience, considerably worse. Just last week, he was in a crisis. He was in a panic emotionally and psychologically, and his body was very nonfunctional. He was standing almost bent over, only able to shuffle. You found it very difficult to move. And at that time, I found that I was moved emotionally, I guess through anger, and I got real focused on who I am and who I’m not in the matter, you know. And at that time, I told him that I love him and respect him and will do whatever I can to assist him, but if he chooses to put himself under the care of other doctors, then he’s going to have to rely upon them for their guidance. If he chooses to be my patient, he’s going to have to comply with my parameters just like any of my other patients. I encouraged him to get off of the medication, the Sinemet, which he has done, and is experiencing considerable improvement in my opinion. And I’m also encouraging him to get off the Xanax, which is a tranquilizer, and the Benadryl, which is an antihistamine that has some type of dubious benefit for some Parkinson’s patients. In essence, I’m encouraging him to be free of all external substances and all outside cures for either his perceived problems or his real problems, and take responsibility for responding to what comes up in his life moment by moment. I encouraged him today—as he walked out to the kitchen, he was standing almost erect, and I commented on how much straighter he was standing and how widely spaced his steps were. And he commented in return, “Yes, but by this afternoon I’ll be bent over and shuffling.”

All right. He’s writing the rules, right? And you mentioned to him that he’s programming the future. He says, “No, I’m not. I’m just stating the past.”

Well, in a sense, you are both correct. He was utilizing the past to forecast the future.

All right. Have you shared what we have already discussed?

What was the response to that? For understand, in effect, what we will do is simply render, perhaps in slightly different terminology, the same idea. That being that that particular symbol in this particular instance is symbolic of an individual’s hesitation to act decisively and to act according to who they define themselves to be. So again, putting this quite colloquially, quite simply, what would behoove him to transform this symbol—in addition to continuing to look at how the symbol has served him also, rather than how it has hampered him—would be to again ground himself into the moment. In any given moment, establish what is available. If one of the things that is available is not possible because of his physical condition, rule that out. That is not one of the things that is available. But continuously enable yourself to get a clear view of what is immediately available and choose with your integrity the one that excites you and move. And simply continuing to do this will create a momentum, will create a lack of hesitation. A lack of hesitancy will create a purposeful intention, and that purposeful intention will replace the hesitated intention. Going for it, hesitating, going for it, hesitating is not a smooth, continuous action. Simply establishing your excitement, establishing what moves you from what you can do, and decisively—to whatever degree you are able, to whatever degree you are able—act upon it. This will begin to prime the pump, so to speak, and have the overall effect of reversing the hesitation. It is as simple as that. That is as concise as we can state it.

Well, again, as important as he wishes to transform it. Whatever he focuses his consciousness on and reaffirms, the universe hears. If he reaffirms his limitations, the universe hears this and wishes, upon hearing it, to continue to supply what a person believes they deserve. So therefore, also allow him to observe his own deservability. Does he feel he deserves to get better? If so, go right ahead, do the things we are sharing. If not, that gives him the opportunity to look at why he would believe he doesn’t deserve it. But again, what you have suggested—affirming the positive, affirming the progress—then the universe hears that, and then the universe provides more of that same mechanism.

Well, understand, it is not that cut and dry. For an individual who defines it as such, it will simply be a palliative psychological process. So therefore, yes, that’s one of the ways to look at it. But it can also be physics rather than just philosophy. It can also be mechanically a sound way to do it. It is up to him, and it will always be up to him, for all individuals always only create through what they already perceive their reality to be. The good news is that they can begin to consciously pay attention to what they are perceiving, and if they do not wish to continue to perceive particular things in a particular way, they can transform it. But it will always be up to him. If he defines “palliative psychological process,” then that is the effect he will get. If he defines “this is the physical, mechanical way with which I will transform what I have already created according to preference,” then he will get that effect. It is both. So he does have within his grasp the possibility of transforming his reality such that he experiences perfect health.

Yes. Thank you, and to you.

And to you, greetings.

Perhaps you can say it became a mass conscious tendency.

But once the tendency exists, individuals can plug into it to just experience that. So overall, you can say perhaps recognizing the tendency allows you to make an agreement with the tendency and experience it as an agreement as well. Did that translate?

Well, a whole lot of things. But the next thing to follow that up with is where Richard and I—Richard is with us but not physically in this room—are exploring language very carefully. And one of the instances that we keep coming up against is “higher self” and “expanded consciousness.” Would you define those two terms for me, please?

Been?

All right. Right, exactly.

Now, from our perspective, perhaps you can say physically there is some of this idea of the upsetting of the inner ear. But perhaps you are asking more metaphysically speaking. And do understand that as you all expand into more of yourself, you allow things to bubble up to the surface from a self-created inner closet, so to speak. This particular style of catharsis with this individual will be representative of an acceleration. However, the form of this acceleration perhaps can be interpreted somewhat negatively at first, for they are deep core issues that have not been addressed. And coming out at this, quote unquote, “advanced state” may be the hardest ones to face. So therefore, this is the timing for this acceleration with that individual, and it will be up to him to decide whether or not he wishes at this point to confront, address, and perhaps transform some of these ideas. But it will also always be his alternative, his choice, to stick them back in the closet—although then they will not go away and will come up again.

In his particular instance, there was a strong identification with what you label past life as Native American Indian, Hi tribe.

Because it will depend. Like to share with people that we interact with—again, there will be many individuals who will not attract that symbol and it will not have that positive effect upon them. But you can trust that the ones you are excited to interact with in this way that are also excited as well will benefit in some way.

Well, it will be to the individuals who that particular aspect comes to their attention, but not necessarily universally.

We are not immediately aware of that particular connection. And again, refer you back to the Native American Indian reference. Now, this does not mean that it did not occur, but it is not to our awareness. Thank you, and to you all for the moment. Oh, do feel free to share again.

And to you, good evening.

Welcome.

Well, my daughter’s name is Kate and her friend’s name is Liz Lewis. All right, allow us a moment. Our strongest, most recent sensing would be what you label time period World War II, place England, friends, childhood friends remaining in touch through most of life. Again, that will be a starting place.

Well, they also knew both of you, but that’s another story.

Not directly, though aware of each other in that life. For now, that will suffice. And to you, is there anything else?

Can I just ask you something about my past life?

What we will share is that your original intention to be a spy in this way got, as you would call it, a slight monkey wrench slipped into your works upon meeting her, who was a him. So therefore, your allegiances were a bit, shall we say, multifold.

You died shortly thereafter. But no, we sense you did return to Germany first. That is all we are getting now. What are you getting?

And that is why you were, in that sense, beginning to consider other ways.

Not right now.

Sharing. He recently—I’m working in the office with patients, balancing the electromagnetic fields around the body, and I’m doing it in a way that I’m not making a big show of it. But in resistant cases where there’s been areas of pain that have not responded to conventional treatment, I said, “Well, we’ve done what we can do. Let’s do some magic.” And I just put my hand either side of the body, and what I sense—once I sense their energy envelope, I sense a pulsing in my palms.

And I’m pretty much making up the rules as I go along, because I noticed at first on the patients that I work with that the pulses are not happening simultaneously in each hand. So what I do is I wait until the pulses are identical in each hand.

And at that time, I sense it’s complete, and I say, “It’s fine. How do you feel now?” And I was very surprised when the patient said, “Much better, thank you.”

And luckily, they believed it more. Well, yes. Well, this particular patient had been working with him for a year subsequent to a car accident. And whenever I would adjust, I said, “How’s your neck?” “Fine, much better.” “How’s your low back?” “Fine, much better.” “How’s the right upper dorsal region?” “It stinks. It’s terrible. It’s not changing.” This is what I got every time. So when he says it’s much better, I got very excited, and I started using, playing with this with other patients as well.

Yes, please.

And I wanted to make a request that you or any associates that you think would be willing and helpful instruct me in exploring and mastering these more subtle ways of assisting people in achieving the health goals that they choose.

And I found when I was raising the question that I was reluctant to say “assist me in healing.”

Yes, I’ve been exploring these ideas. I’ve come to entertain the thought very seriously that no one heals anyone. Everyone creates their own disease. They create their own reality. And that all I can do is create a context within which they can create the type of reality they say they prefer, where they allow themselves to heal.

Then you will create that effect. And perhaps even in your own technique, in a sense, sabotage yourself to play out to that expectation.

And what happened to your neck?

You mean to tell me this stuff works? How fascinating.

So you do have still some belief about the time aspect.

Oh, right.

Oh, that will be very often one of the main reasons that what you label your doctors will choose illnesses from time to time—to be able to identify more strongly with what a person is going through and perhaps utilize that as an incentive to assist them faster rather than more economically.

Do ask.

There will be some degree of individuals who will participate as an audience with that. And then again, others who will perhaps need a slightly more physical demonstration to enable them to validate enough of a change to heal themselves.

It has to—the individual himself has to be open to be able to receive this type of symbol, this type of love. As Jan would say, though not necessarily always consciously open, but at least unconsciously open.

All right.

Do understand the reason that this works is because individuals are not held out of place by their spine. They, shall we say, perpetuate their own misalignments. Misalignments are active, not passive. This is a misunderstanding. They hold themselves out of alignment, not that the misalignments hold them out of alignment. So when you say “you’re adjusted,” they go “fine,” they buy that. And if they do, then they allow themselves to let go, to let go of the hold of their own misaligning. So in fact, you’re not practicing any type of psychokinesis. Rather, you can call it that—you’re allowing them to give themselves permission to allow the bone to move where they choose it to be, or allow that area representing misalignment in whatever way it does to realign. Need not necessarily be physical bone misalignment.

Our particular perspective and understanding of the biomechanical nature of what you label to be your spine would be to tell you that more precisely, you are restoring its proper motion more than taking something static, moving it from a misplaced area back to another area. For that is assigning static designations to a dynamic structure.

Or can be. Depends on the individual. Depends if what they are holding out of alignment is physically lack of motion or again nervous system. Is moving objects with our mind, or what we call psychokinesis, is that available to me right now?

Yes. Well, may not be what is occurring now, but is it available to me?

Because I find myself from time to time feeling like I can move things.

We have heard from you and Bashar that on your planet Essassani, your civilization, that the average lifespan might be about 300 years approximately, according to your timeline. Okay, when someone is born in your civilization, to what extent do they need educated, and how is that accomplished? In schools or what?

Yes, but we also always, always, always understand that we are all always teachers and learners. And we do not minimize the fact that as we are able to perhaps teach in a way—call it teach—particular ideas, that we are also in interacting with that individual and watching them then do these things, also learning as well. So everyone is a teacher, everyone is a learner. The parents, in that sense, are the parents of all. The children are the children of all. That is the overall effect. Let’s say one particular young person decides to follow their excitement in a particular direction, whether it has to do with space travel. Then he will invariably attract himself to individuals who are already doing that. They will not then learn by any cognitive process, but they will simply begin immediately to participate on whatever level they are able, and then they learn again through the actual having of the experience—on the job training.

No, various. I have never attended what you would label a class, but I have always attracted myself to whatever individuals that would enable me, so to speak. Even this is an analogy and does not exist as precisely as we are saying it, but an apprenticeship, so to speak.

Most common. But will again depend on the definition of the explorations and the time spans necessary to complete those explorations. Certain explorations may take tens, 20s to hundreds of years. Others just a few. So it will depend on the specifics. There is a general overall interest from most members of our society in the idea of space travel and exploration. But there are even individuals who are less inclined toward this and more, shall we say, literally grounded.

Most early on in my own life, I was involved very actively in what you would call swimming. That was one of my joys, one of my discoveries, as well as art and music. This was, shall we say, the concentration of what you would call my earlier life. It was somewhat recently—approximately 30 to 50 of your years ago, again this is arbitrary within our time frame—that I became, shall we say, interested in the idea of communicating with other species, other civilizations, and space travel. So therefore, then attracted myself to particular individuals, one of them the individual that you have designated as Bashar, and thereby enabled by that particular interaction to begin to learn, shall we say, the ins and outs of communicating in this way. My particular age, by your years of counting—not to confuse the matters—would be approximately 133 of your years.

No, we are around our own planet. And since Tony hasn’t asked yet, who is “we” at this point? Myself and one other individual, a female, in your scout craft, a cap. Do you have any question?

Really, for we do not do the same thing every day. Because every individual, when they realize something is very exciting to them, immediately does it. A very interesting thing occurs: everything gets done. There is always somebody excited about doing something that right at that time needs to get done. Because we’ve always functioned this way, grow up functioning this way, have always only known how to do whatever excites us in any given moment, and trust that whoever needs to be there is there, whatever needs to be there is there. That is what we create. So therefore, everything always gets done, but very many times by different individuals, for that is then the timing for them to be excited about doing those things. So no, we do not have jobs per se. We do not have money, for everybody realizes that the services of all individuals, no matter what, are equal. Therefore, there is an equal exchange. Individuals simply realize if somebody comes to them needing a service, that they have attracted that person. Render the service to that person because they know they have attracted it. And then usually wind up being attracted back to that person, and that person can then do something for them—though it doesn’t always need to be that direct. So no, we do not have jobs. But again, everything gets done and everybody always functions and has a lot of fun.

Simply balance. First of all, again, we remind you that as you are beginning to progress into fourth density from third, we are progressing from fourth density, which is physical, to fifth density, non-physical, and are beginning to rely less and less upon symbols. So for instance, getting fat, we simply do not eat any longer, and there is not that idea within us. Again, we have discussed many of the symbologies of the gaining of weight—waiting around and not doing things. And simply, nobody ever does this. We are constantly busy.

Along those lines. Hey, greetings.

There was in our history the idea that you would call similar to laundering. But then we developed a particular style of fabric that, shall we say, has a particular vibration. And this is the only translation that we can find that keeps it basically clean.

No, neat.

That either? No, not really. If individuals have some reason for wishing to express themselves in a slightly different way, then they will attract to themselves different garments. But this is less of an emphasis in our society by quite a bit than your own.

This is a three-sided matter, and if I seem confused, it’s because I am.

The answer is yes. There is, in a sense, only morning.

Oh, right. Begin.

You played them out a bit faster in this life.

Very good. Now you can use it in this revision, and in recapitulating many of these ideas, again reconcile them within you to the degree that it now allows you to apply them positively in this life.

Yes.

Yes, this was a judgment. And as I understand, judgment is an exploration of limitation.

No, I didn’t.

I almost did it, but I just became curious.

And—oh, all right. That is not a judgment. The degree to which you are willing to be honest with yourself is the degree to which you will reveal your inner self. Simply proceed.

Oh, thank you. Now we are getting somewhere.

Not at the moment.

Yeah, it is their particular reality to choose to interact with that or not.

Well, what you have said very nicely is that is one of the conditions. And what we are speaking of, what cuts through all that, what simply immediately transforms all that, is the idea of unconditional love. Unconditional love means being willing to still discern somebody else’s reality, to still discern, to still identify how you stand according to somebody else’s conception, their reality. But now you need not impose the conditions that if what they are exploring is different from who you are, they stink. You can simply understand that is their exploration, that is valid for them, they have the right and the reason to embark on that exploration. It simply has no relevance to you. And that is the only observation that you need make that will enable you to remain self-empowered. And by not invalidating their point of view, you give more strength to your own point of view.

And then was the timing from our perspective, with your allowance, by the way, to share with you this idea so that you could continue to choose to transform it, and not need in that sense to force anybody else’s reality to be anything that it is not. For simply you understand your reality is what is appropriate for you, and their reality is what is appropriate for them.

Yes, but you did not. And you did not then sabotage.

All right. Now do understand the favor that you have done to yourself. For if you had chosen to sabotage him or anybody else, you become the vibration of sabotage. Therefore, you then attract sabotage to yourself. By choosing not to, you become the vibration of integration. Therefore, have a good time. You can expect good things to be attracted as the reflection of that.

Right, no need whatsoever.

Then we thank you for your conscious commandment and your willingness to honor your preference with integrity. And thank you back. There, you mention that you live 300 of our years.

Personally feel there are so many good things to experience in this life. Somewhat envious of your being able to survive for 300 years.

Get shaky. I was hoping that you would say just that. I think that—well, thank you. I think that age, at least for us, resides in the mind and spirit and not necessarily in the body, because I’ve seen elderly people be far more dynamic than some young people.

Yes, it does. It’s wonderful news. Then have a good time. Thank you, Elan. Is that all?

All right.

If you are clear in what your beliefs are, yes, absolutely.

Well, in other words, if you truly believe that the medicine, as you call it, helps, or that you must have it, then that is the effect you will get. But you can always look at that belief and decide to choose something else. Allow us to comment about something you shared first. What you label in your society “nervous breakdown” is simply when a person very abruptly changes the definition, for no matter what the reason is, of who they are. Now, very often within the belief system of an individual is the notion that in order to emerge a new you, must first literally kill the old self. And the effect of the seeming dying of the old self and the emergence of the new self—or prior to the emergence of the new self—is sometimes called a nervous breakdown, for it is the breakdown of the personality construct, the artificial personality construct, for it is now no longer as useful to who it is you have become and what you wish to explore. Now, where the difficulty generally arises is not from the process itself, but from the fact that the process is then highly and heavily judged both by the individual undergoing it and also then reinforced by the society who says “everybody knows, for instance, that is antisocial.” That then reinforces the feeling in a person that what they have done, which is actually quite natural, is something that they should regret. Therefore, part of it is the self-judgment for having redefined yourself. Also understand that what you label depression, from our perspective, is simply the opportunity that an individual gives himself in seeing that they create their own reality, and understanding that though there are things external to you, they are all a reflection of something within. Very often, individuals will get to the point where they simply cannot find any answers outside. It just becomes obvious that all answers lie within. An individual then turning within can simply be self-reflective, self-meditative, and learn many things. But again, the same difficulty arises when an individual judges that self-reflection. “Everybody knows that is antisocial.” That is what prolongs the process, makes it seem like the depression lasts very long. Although always when individuals work, play through that and emerge, they always emerge anew with a new spirit and a new strength. What we are simply suggesting is that from this point forward, now that this definition has been introduced to you, you can understand that when you feel you are depressed, you need not judge and can simply understand that you are turning within. If you then get down to the job of allowing yourself to turn within and look at the issues that come up as they come up, it, shall we say, transforms rather quickly, and you emerge anew rather quickly. If you judge it and put yourself down about it and continually berate yourself through the process, you still rediscover, you still redefine, but you add a lot of time. So therefore, you understand from this point forward, should you feel that that you are simply giving yourself the opportunity to look to the only place that you truly ever discover anything anyway—within. And if you are willing to do so without judging it, it will become a constructive process rather than a seeming destructive process. For the emphasis will not be on the you that has, quote unquote, “died” or transformed. It will be on the new emerging you. Therefore, you will not have a sense of loss but a great sense of gain. Does that make sense?

Yes. And I feel that when I’m around a group of people that I don’t really know that well, and I’m getting to know them for the first time, I realize that I’ve grown within this 15-year period, or 12 or 13 really.

And well, it is disintegrative, for sure.

Well, do understand another thing. Judgment is two parts: judgment rendered, but you will only feel an effect if you match the vibration of that judgment and in that sense jump on their bandwagon to judge yourself. If you use that as an opportunity to establish who you are and realize that yes, perhaps they believe this about me, but I know myself to be different than what they are saying, you do not get the effect or the emotion of feeling judged. You simply get the effect of the emotion of disagreeing with another viewpoint, not needing to then go to the extent of invalidating it, saying to yourself, “Well, they have the right to think that, but that is not who I am.” So therefore, when you find yourself feeling judged by others, you only have that feeling because on some level you are buying into and defending against, so to speak, that judgment. Look at that and remind yourself about your unconditional deservability and your constant ability to unconditionally love yourself, which means even if you did agree with them, you love yourself anyway, because there are no conditions on the love for yourself. This is the love that All-That-Is, or what you call God, has for you. So you can always tap into it, for you always are receiving it from All-That-Is. All-That-Is loves you unconditionally, and there is simply nothing that you can do to lose that love. You are a part of All-That-Is, and All-That-Is will always love all its parts. So perhaps you can utilize that information to tap into what sometimes may be perceived to be an overwhelming feeling of unconditional love from All-That-Is, and simply jump on that bandwagon instead. One other comment I’d like to make, and that’s—

Was that useful?

So, and that is quite positive. But again, thinking of yourself first need not mean at the exclusion of everyone else. Simply making sure that you are taken care of, because when you are, you then have the greater ability to be of service to others. So taking back your power and nurturing your own deservability need not seem selfish to other people. But again, it will enable you to be of more service to them by first being of service to yourself. Yes, now also understand that you are 15 years later, a new vibration. You are a new person. You will now, being the vibration that you are creating yourself to be right now, attract a new crowd. Therefore, mingle. It is no accident that you are with who you are with in any given interaction of this sort. And there are many individuals with whom you can share. Thank you a lot, and to you for the gift of your presence and interaction.

I’ve been thinking, as sitting here, about past lives and about struggling through past lives.

Well, actually, I feel like I have in some way struggled most of my life to get to certain points where I want to be, and I don’t feel I’ve ever reached the dynamics of that. But I, for some reason now, I’ve noticed that things seem to be coming together in a way that I’ve never imagined they could. A woman from a local newspaper had put a little release about our TV show that we want to get volunteers to help out for the intergalactic TV network, which is going to be a weekly program. And all of a sudden, the swimming popped up excited from one of the local weekly papers which I had given a release to. And she came over and did a—she was there for about three hours interviewing me about the TV program and about—

Well, how exciting. Getting some recognition and beginning again being the vibration you are choosing to be to attract the support crew.

What a coincidence.

Oh, right. I had pondered the thought and wasn’t sure what I wanted to do, and I kept it open. And then I decided with excitement that I would talk about extraterrestrials. And I’m not sure what I’m going to say because obviously I won’t know until I’m there doing it.

We will say it will come out just perfect. You will have, so to speak, some help.

Not at this time. There will be forthcoming a communication very soon, but not this evening. Well, just say we do thank you for asking.

Is all right. You are receiving this on many levels. But I definitely—I’m not sure where I’m going with—there is some other questions that I do have. And there’s a woman I just recently met who lives in South—I haven’t met her personally yet, but through the phone line—who started a place called The Place. And she’s channeling various spirits, and also she has what she calls light trance, which she’s not into deep trance, where she can actually verbally—they can verbally come through on the mental plane through her.

We understand.

I understand that also.

In a sense, you can understand simply that that craft would not necessarily represent what you generally refer to as a mother craft, though it is a larger vessel. And those what she is labeling pods to be a form of probe.

Again, the area of interest for the probes are simply observation right now. A probe—when we took look at probes, are they similar to what we call our own satellites that NASA puts up without anybody inside?

Yes, similar to that. But again, there are other vibrational measurements taking place which simply will not translate for you. Do not have the technology.

We understand the reference. Right, but it wouldn’t be on this particular dimensional reality. It is again extra-dimensional and will represent a particular council of beings.

Yes. Okay, and again, they do not exist in your dimension physically.

We have discussed before that there is in those areas what you would label electromagnetic vortices.

The idea is that if indeed the center does revolve around unconditional love and not conditional love, there will be perhaps an attraction to that area by many individuals.

I see. So it will depend on how sincerely they are representing the concept of unconditional.

All right. Well, have a good time. Float away. Keep your head above water.

Is the name Chip-Hop?

What you might loosely label a form of guide. But again, that even has the implication that there is an inequality. And at least from his perspective, or their perspective, you are equal.

The energy is attainable. Right?

What do you think?

I’m wondering if you could help me to clarify a recent meditation that I had. Perhaps I was asking about work and how to support myself, and I’ve asked this many times over the past months in meditation. And in this particular one, I am at this time preparing a new way to make a living and a new career and things, as well as trying to get some money yet from my old one. And I saw images in my mind. And one of them was—and I’ve seen this utilized in other, in previous meditations—it was I was on a road. I was near the top of a hill, and the road, it was black and it had a white line down the center, and it went down directly in front of me and then started rising on a far hill. And there were about 15 cars coming toward me, 15, 20 cars driving toward me with their lights on. Can you help me to interpret a symbol like that?

In a sense, we initially see two ideas. One will be that upon your rebirth, in a sense, you witnessed the funeral for the old you. The other will be again the reminder that you are not on a path, you are a path, and can never step off of yourself no matter what you do, where you go. That is your path. But you are at the juncture within the path that you are where you are deciding to transform, where you are beginning to validate what moves you and move in that direction. And again, one interpretation, one polarized interpretation of that can be, quote unquote, “the death of the old you.”

Well, there are no “shoulds.” But continuing to do the same thing and expecting a different result perhaps is not that logical. Whereas if you are willing to do a different thing, you can only get a different result. Now, it is a matter of trusting the new result as much as you have trusted the old result. It is not that you had a lack of trust for the new result. It is just that you simply resoundingly placed your trust in the old result. Do you understand? Therefore, you have that trust. You now know where it is you have defined it. You can place it wherever you wish. You always trust in something. Perhaps you can say the trick is to become aware of what you’ve chosen to trust in and consciously re-choose if you do not prefer what you have trusted in. In other words, to water it down to your slang: go for it.

When I said that, I immediately saw several images. The first—and I think that there are what you’re just saying—the first was some, several pairs of shorts. They were what we would wear in the summertime, and the top, the one on the top, was purple. And then directly after that, I saw some caps, and they would again be what we would wear in the summer, and they were bright orange and magenta. And then I saw a tennis shoe that was multicolored. And these seemed to all be related to the idea of travel and summer and things.

That’s interesting from that meditation. I would like to ask to follow this up then. I have been putting this off for several months, but I have the idea of writing a place called Power Places Tours to see if I could work for them.

Because—well, how creative. If it excites you, do it. If you do not get the expected result, there will at least be some result. And whatever result you get, act upon that. Whatever lead you get, act upon that. The result can be literal. But when we speak to you about following your excitement, something that perhaps we may include more often is that you need not do so with a particular expectation that your excitement must play out in a particular way. It will play out in the way that it needs to to provide you with what will then enable you to do the next thing. So go for that as well.

Then that is what has led you to this particular new excitement, Power Places Tours. Proceed with that by finding individuals who are already doing what it is you wish to do, and mimicking their vibration, you become that same vibration and get the same result. Therefore, you have attracted to yourself most blatantly a symbol of individuals doing what you already wish to do. Therefore, when interacting with them, do so as an equal. Allow them to know your desires, and if they do not require your services in quite the way that you expect, then inquire from them where perhaps you can then next look. Utilize the whole lot of opportunity, not just one particular narrow expectation.

I’m wondering if you have the capability of projecting forward, for instance, in my children’s lives, perhaps my own, what interest they may pursue in the future.

For that is not our particular style. For again, there is no one future. There are many probable futures, and you always get to choose. Perhaps turning it a bit around would be to ask them themselves what excites them, what moves them. And then you, being in the position to enable them to move in that direction, can assist them to do so rather than talking them out of their excitement if what excites them is not, quote unquote, “mainstream.” Therefore, by establishing what does very truly excite them the most, you can answer your own question and understand what their tendencies will be. The question is, will you enable them? Will they then enable themselves to begin to act on it in whatever way they can? Is this of assistance?

All right, do proceed.

The last life? No. But you have been in a past life.

In a sense, you can say at least on some level almost everyone in this room was interacting within that same time frame and were at least meeting each other. But yes, the individuals you are directly with as well.