Part 2 of Stepping from the Shadows

The Highest Fourth Density Experience

Bashar Bashar
22 min read

Heaven on Earth

Participant: What is the highest potential for the human experience?

Bashar: The fourth density experience allows the Heaven on Earth experience.

This is where everyone absolutely having what they need when they need it, in absolute harmony with every aspect of your experience, being full-fledged expressions of creation in the way that is unique for you to express it. It’s how our civilization functions.

We operate on what we call pure synchronism. Everyone is exactly where they need to be when they need to be there, interacting with exactly who they need to interact with at exactly the right moment, getting exactly what they need in perfect exchange, in perfect harmony, in perfect timing. It’s a choreography, it’s an orchestration, it’s automatic.

That’s all there is to it. It’s like living in a dream because you start to realize that physical reality is a dream, and that you can have manifestation that you would have in the past simply recognized as magical.

But you see miracles are not the exception — miracles are the natural order of things. Not experiencing them is the exception. So you are giving up being the exception and going into the flow of creation in a more natural way, beginning to realize that surrender is not giving up control — surrender is allowing the control you already have to express itself more freely. It’s understanding that going with the flow means that the current already knows where you need to go, instead of swimming upstream with resistance because the physical mind thinks it knows what’s best. The physical mind isn’t designed to know that.

The physical mind doesn’t have a clue. Well, now and then maybe a hint. But the physical mind is only designed to experience what’s happening. The higher mind is designed to know what needs to happen in order to bring to your physical individual experience as a personality everything you need in your life that is relevant for you in order to experience the fullness of your being in complete and total joy and ecstasy. That is the potential in all of you, should you choose to awaken to it.

Astrology

Participant: I really like to study astrology. It gives me lots of permission slips to be who I am.

Bashar: All right then. Whatever you’re attracted to will work for you for the duration of the time that you’re attracted to it.

Participant: I’m curious — astrology, when we look at our natal chart, it’s our birth chart, a moment of time that we were born. From your perception of us in the room now, are you able to see and identify different energies in our being?

Bashar: Yes.

Participant: And is that constantly changing, or is there something that constantly changes?

Bashar: There are some things that in a sense seem to be the same, but you are constantly recreating it to appear that way. So continuity is also an illusion, but it’s an illusion that can serve you to create what you perceive to be stability in your reality. Nevertheless, it’s constantly changing. Nothing is static. Remember that that’s the fifth law: Everything changes except the laws. Nothing ever stops. It’s dynamically constantly changing, but there are patterns to it. It’s not so much just this — it’s this. You understand the difference? You may feel that there are ups and downs in the changes, but that doesn’t mean you’re always on the same level. The ups and downs can actually be raising your vibration so that your overall arc is up.

Participant: What I find in the trends in astrology is if I find a place where I have a weakness or a trigger to something, and if it’s painful and fearful, that that’s actually a huge potential for growth.

Bashar: Absolutely. That’s an opportunity to take that moment and stay in that moment and find out what the definitions are that would be generating that experience of pain. Yes, that’s the whole point — to experience that process. The process is the point. As you have heard on your planet, the journey is the destination. You have nowhere more important to be than dealing with what’s happening right now, ever. You have nowhere more important to be.

Participant: So can I take astrology as a map in a sense?

Bashar: You can, as long as you understand it’s a reflection, not something that controls anybody. It’s a reflection of decisions and choices that have been made from different levels of consciousness, and therefore yes, you can kind of read it as a map. But you will also have to rely on your own intuition to allow parts of it to stand out in ways that might be a little bit different than what you may have originally learned to do with it, because as you change, the way in which you use that permission slip will also change.

Past Lives

Participant: I have a question about past lives. Are past lives more of a fable than true?

Bashar: Everything exists now. There is no such thing as the past. There is no such thing as the future. Everything exists simultaneously. So you can create an experience called a past life, a reincarnational experience, where it seems you have a life and you die and go into spirit, choose another life and you die and go into spirit, choose another life — you can create that linear experience and call it reincarnation. But you’re only describing an experience, you’re not describing the actual mechanism that causes the experience.

The actual mechanism is that everything exists at once, and therefore what you’re doing is you are making energetic links and connections to those other simultaneously existing incarnational lives of those people. You’re connecting to them in a way that you draw information and experience and knowledge from them to help inform this particular experience, just as they may be making connections to you to draw from your experience to help them in their lives. But all those people exist now. You as a person have never been them; they as a person will never be you as a person now.

If you want to come from a higher level, let’s say the oversoul level, and you want to say “me” referring to you on that level, then you can say all right, the oversoul has an extension that you call this life in this time and place, and has a simultaneous extension that you call this life in that time and place. And so the oversoul can say yes, both of those are my lives. But that’s because they still happen simultaneously, even from the oversoul perspective. But when you say, “Was that my life as a person?” the answer is no, it wasn’t. And that dynamically changes as you change. Again, you make different connections, you unplug from some and plug into new ones to get the information you need for the new person that you are. Therefore that’s a constantly changing dynamic thing. It’s never really static, even though you might say, “Well, that has been my past life as long as I can remember” — you are still recreating that sense of continuity for a reason, for a purpose. But it’s always dynamically changing as you change too.

Anxiety and Definitions

Participant: I often feel like I’m often questioning where my excitement and my desire is coming from, and it often puts me in my head and it puts up a veil, a block from being fully here now.

Bashar: All right, well then I have a suggestion for you. Stop wondering where it’s coming from, because it’s not coming from anywhere but you. So does it never comes from a place that’s not in your truth? Correct — if it’s really representative of your excitement, unless you’re saying it’s just anxiety being disguised as excitement. But nevertheless still coming from you, because if it is anxiety, then at that moment that’s still your truth.

Participant: And then how would you — what are tips to get out of that frequency of anxiety?

Bashar: Have you been paying attention? You’re asking this as if it hasn’t been addressed. Do you remember what we said about finding the definition that generates that anxiety? There’s no such thing as an emotion that exists in a vacuum. You cannot have a feeling at all ever until you have a definition first. So if you have a feeling like anxiety, that gives you the opportunity to ask the following question: what would I have to believe is true about myself in order for that belief to generate this emotion? Because emotions always generate from beliefs, not the other way around.

So if you’re willing to hear the answer in some way, it’ll come. But you have to understand that’s how it works. First you have a definition that you buy into that you believe is true, then it generates the emotions, then it generates the thoughts, then it generates the behaviors. So any behavior you don’t prefer, any thought you don’t prefer, any emotion you don’t prefer, you can always ask the question: what would I have to believe is true about myself in this situation in order to generate this feeling, these thoughts, this behavior? If you’re willing to hear the answer, the answer will in some way, shape or form come. It’s that simple — if you understand how it works, it’s that simple.

Now, as we have often said, there is another way to ask the question that takes advantage of the fact that so many of you are so used to dealing with fear. Therefore you can use fear to your advantage in the following way: you can reverse the question and say, all right, if I did in fact allow myself to act on what I believe to be at this moment my highest excitement, what am I afraid might happen? Sometimes that will give you a stronger answer than the other question, because you’re so used to dealing with fear, so used to being afraid, you’ll say, “Oh, what am I afraid of? Well, that’s easy — I’m afraid this will happen, or I’m afraid that’ll happen, or I’m afraid someone won’t love me anymore, or they’ll persecute me, or they’ll think I’m crazy.” All of those things start coming out, and then you start realizing what I actually believe — those things to be true. And then it starts becoming nonsensical, it starts making no sense, it starts becoming illogical. And as soon as you truly allow that negative belief that’s out of alignment with you to appear nonsensical, you’re at the end of the process of letting it go.

Channeling and Hybrid Program

Participant: I’ve been doing my own vocal channeling. It’s very exciting. And I’m stepping out of the shadows, stepping from the shadows more into the excitement of it.

Participant: I’ve been going through feeling into wanting — in a sense to fact-check with you guys.

Bashar: Fact-check? Yes.

Participant: I’m aware of the fact that there may be a part of me that is looking for validation that what I am experiencing is actually in alignment.

Bashar: All you have to do is ask yourself: is what’s coming through you supportive, encouraging, expanding, connected, positive — as opposed to the opposite? Absolutely. And if it is, then that’s your answer. You’re doing fine. Keep doing it, if that’s the case. If it’s not controlling, negative, fear-inducing — do you understand?

Participant: There is a resistance though that I feel in the body.

Bashar: Well, what do you think is happening there?

Participant: I’m moving the energy through in different ways.

Bashar: And you may simply not be used to that yet. You need to stretch a little bit, perhaps by continuing to practice.

Participant: There is also a sense of responsibility that I feel in a way that is a bit…

Bashar: But that’s just a belief. Responsibility is simply the ability to respond.

Participant: I want to lead everyone through the Hokey Pokey.

Bashar: Do you know the Hokey Pokey?

Participant: We understand the reference.

Participant: I’ve been connecting to experiences that I may classify in my mind as my lab, and I think there are many of us that have chosen to participate in what we would understand as the hybrid program, as well as having connections and experience with beings like you in different modalities. Many of us have chosen to partake in these different lines of experience that can be quite intense sometimes. I’m really learning that we can truly remember our experiences in the now and remember remembering, creating that past. So I’m just wondering your perspective a bit of those programs.

Bashar: What we’re both pulling from — all the souls involved, the higher selves involved — what we can bring forward, your perspective of best is to some of us that are beginning to integrate those. Anything that’s coming through in regards to those specific…

Participant: With regard to the hybrid program, there are overlaps, which we will be discussing in the future transmission: “The Five Hybrid Races.”

Bashar: Oh, a nice commercial. Cool. Awesome.

Participant: I just want to really give credence and appreciation and awareness and respect to the emotional body, and how we and you are able to bring more information surrounding that at this time. It’s human and it’s very important, and how you expressed what you expressed today about fear is essential.


Dialogue 10: Moses, Extraterrestrials, and the Tablets

Participant: I have a question about some history in the Bible. I was wondering if Moses actually went up on Mount Sinai and got these two tablets, and where they came from.

Bashar: He was given knowledge. It was an extraterrestrial encounter. The knowledge was inscribed in what you might call tablets — but not exactly of stone.

Participant: What were they made of, and where are they now?

Bashar: They were a kind of crystalline formation, a kind of crystalline nanomaterial with information that was downloadable upon touching the surface with your hand. There were some inscriptions in it, but only in the most general sense of “here’s this category, this category, this category” — touch here, you will get that knowledge; touch here, you will get that knowledge.

Now, what has been translated in your language as the so-called Ten Commandments were not commandments. That’s a misinterpretation. They were simply ten expressions of existence. In other words, to give you an example: what translated as “I am the Lord your God, you shall not have false gods before me” as a commandment actually was “I am All-That-Is. Anything else you can imagine is still me. So there can be no false gods.” That’s the difference.

Participant: Where are they now?

Bashar: Wouldn’t you like to know? We’re actually not allowed to tell you. However, we are allowed to give you a hint, if we may.

Participant: I would love a hint.

Bashar: All right. What is the most famous story about someone solving a riddle that you have in your culture?

Participant: Nope. Louder? Something the Sphinx.

Bashar: What a surprise. See what you can find. Solve the riddle. We’re only allowed to tell you so much. We cannot intervene in this process, but they do exist. They can be found in or perhaps out of time.

Participant: This extraterrestrial presence that gave us these tablets — are they also responsible for the Jews being in the desert for 40 years and the parting of the sea?

Bashar: Yes. They are a branch of what you have come to understand as the Anunnaki, but not the original ones.

Participant: Do you know why they chose to give it to the Jews?

Bashar: I do.

Participant: Can you tell us?

Bashar: Why? Not my job to tell you. Someone else will tell you in time — or out of it. It may. We are being told it may, to some degree, be allowed once again in the upcoming transmission “The Five Hybrid Races,” which actually — we are also being told we are allowed to say — may actually be not only about the five, but the sixth that you’re becoming, and the seventh that we will all become together. So it may extend a little further than you think, and it may cover more ground than you think, and may turn in more directions than you think, from the title that has been given. We do not mean to be mysterious, but yes, we do. For that is all we can say at this moment, based on the timing of the dispensation and dispersal and dissemination of this information. You are on the cusp, but not quite there yet. But more will be revealed as these dialogues continue.

Participant: I’m curious about Mars. Was there any life there?

Bashar: Is there life there?

Yes. primitive still at this point. A civilization long ago that needed to move because of an asteroidal strike that ripped off about half of their atmosphere and became uninhabitable by the life form that was there.

But there are still what you would call bacteriological, fungal-like life forms. Not to say that the planet isn’t visited by different civilizations from time to time for a variety of reasons, not to say that there aren’t bases there for ships.

But in terms of the indigenous life that left long ago and started to go inward and incarnate upon the Earth in terms of their spirits — therefore the trail began in your solar system with the body that was between Mars and Jupiter that is now the asteroid belt in your system, that was once called Maldek.

when that became uninhabitable, the life moved to Mars and flourished there for quite some time. And when that became uninhabitable, life incarnated on your Earth, which is still habitable — moving inward and inward and inward toward the sun, toward the light, going from the outer darkness to the inner light.

Mothman, Chupacabra, and Nature Spirits

Participant: I have a question about the Mothman and the Chupacabra.

Bashar: Chupacabra is a relatively rare and little-known species that exists on your planet.

It is uncommon to run across it, but it is kind of a cross between what you would call a canine and something else a long time ago that was hybridized with it, that no longer exists on your planet in its original form — it’s extinct.

So it is a rare offshoot of a hybridization, a melding that took place long ago, and it’s the last remnants of that particular creature on your planet.

Mothman is a very different idea. it’s an interdimensional being — that like a moth is drawn to a certain type of light.

The light being the light you experience or have described as experiencing upon the passage in death. Therefore it is always attracted to things that have to do with imminent death, passage of death in that sense. It can be a warning or harbinger of death to come, or it can simply be that being which is attracted to the light that occurs in the transition between one reality and another — like energy being given off in the passage.

Participant: In the distant future, will we be working more with nature spirits?

Bashar: Absolutely. As has already been described, you will find that after the time of the arrival of the hybrids on your planet and when they are more fully integrated into your society and you into theirs, the idea of interacting with nature spirits will be a relatively common thing, because you will all have the abilities to do so, based on the abilities of the hybrids to perceive them and guide humans to them and allow the spirits to manifest before you in more physical ways. There will be an activity and a process involved in this, but by the time — as we have explained already, or as also has Willa Hildegard explained to you already, being 700 years in your future — interacting with nature spirits is a daily occurrence for her and the people of that time.

Participant: Any living dinosaurs? The Loch Ness Monster — is that a real thing?

Bashar: Well, of course you understand that dinosaurs exist as birds. Yes. And in fact, many of your scientists, to be a little bit more accurate, are not really referring to them as birds anymore — they’re referring to them as avian dinosaurs. Are there any originals living? Very rare, but a few in certain isolated places, yes, where the conditions have lasted long enough for them to perpetuate. But this is exceedingly uncommon.

The idea that you are describing as Loch Ness is a slightly different idea. There are certain kinds of portals around your planet that are gateways between one reality and another, and sometimes beings from other times and places will come through them. And therefore why you may not be able to easily find them, because they may vanish back through the portal. So it’s kind of like your world is very leaky.


Dialogue 12: Ancestral Healing and Changing the Past

Participant: I’m African-American, and I’ve been exploring ancestral healing, multigenerational trauma, and making a lot of great steps. What’s coming to me is this idea that the more oppression, the more pain that someone goes through, the more opportunity that person has for bringing light into the world. It’s the rubber band analogy. So what occurred to me was that people who have been oppressed systematically for generations have a really great opportunity to bring light into the world, which a lot of them are beginning to do.

So for African-American people, the idea of the past being holographic — the idea of changing the past to align with a specific future that is bright, that has lots of light and love in it — means changing the present. Basically it’s changing how we relate to the past. Would it be helpful to actually create new stories of what happened in the past?

Bashar: In a sense, yes, you can do that. The idea also is to understand that every time you change yourself, you do in fact literally change your past.

Participant: I’ve been feeling into the past and learning about the stories, and then I haven’t been changing the stories because I don’t think my belief system can support that — but I’ve been changing my perspective.

Bashar: Why not? Why not? Because you don’t have to insist that they’re true for them to have the effect that they are. That’s why you all tell so many stories anyway. You go to movies and read books, and you know that they might be works of fiction, but many of them feel emotionally true, don’t they?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: That’s sufficient. So you can use stories to paint a picture that elicits certain emotions within people you’re talking to. The reason, as we have said several times, that that’s so powerful is because story structure is innately built into your psyche. Story structure is not something you invented — story structure is something you discovered. And so when you tell a story and use story structure, it’s like you’re plucking the right chords in your psyche to remember that information more efficiently and take it in and absorb it more deeply. Story structure allows you to transmit information more efficiently. That’s why stories stick and so many stories have been around for so long — because they follow story structure, and people never forget them. If you miss certain beats in the story structure, the story doesn’t feel as authentic. It doesn’t have to be true to feel authentic.

Sun Simulator and Karma

Participant: There is some information on the internet that there is a sun simulator going on on Earth. Could you tell something about that?

Bashar: Can you repeat that phrase? It did not translate.

Participant: A sun simulator — not our real sun. They say that it’s like a big light that is pretending to be the sun, so to speak.

Bashar: Thank you. That’s the best answer. I’ll give you this: the sun is real, okay? And is really there, because it’s a star like a lot of other stars, and it’s really there, and you’re really orbiting it. However, at the same time, since you now are beginning to understand that physical reality is a simulation, I suppose you could say the sun is a simulation too — but then so is everything in physical reality. It’s a simulation that you’re projecting from your consciousness. So is it really there? Yes. Is it a simulation? Yes. It’s this and that, not this or that.

Bashar: But in the way that you meant it, yes, it’s really there. It’s not a simulated sun in that context.

Participant: I was thinking about karma when you were explaining about the history that is really like imprint in our psyche. So karma would function the same.

Bashar: Karma is self-imposed. Karma is just an understanding that you may have made choices that allow you to experience yourself as being out of balance, and in recognizing that that may not be what you prefer, then taking actions in the direction of choosing things that would bring you back into balance. That’s karma. That’s all it is.

Participant: Like a memory?

Bashar: Well, in a sense, although memory is created in the present. So if we live simultaneous lives, it’s not right to say that we have karma that comes to another life. That is incorrect.

Participant: So we don’t have anything to pay like no.

Bashar: Just attention to yourself. Pay attention to yourself, and choose what you prefer. And if you choose something you don’t prefer, learn from it. Make choices that are more in alignment with what you do prefer and who you prefer to be, and that will be the proper use of the so-called term karma. That’s all. It really just has to do with responsibility again.

Dream of Angels and Tall Whites

Participant: I had a dream many years ago. I was very scared because I was thinking that there were some ghosts in the house, and I was praying.

Bashar: What did you imagine praying would do?

Participant: Make the ghosts go away, perhaps.

Bashar: How do you know that praying wouldn’t make them come closer?

Participant: I was not sure. But then there was this big light, and I saw three angels — big angels, tall angels — and I was not dreaming. And the interesting thing is that the angels had eyes like they were extraterrestrials.

Bashar: Well, that’s because they were. They weren’t angels. That was a projection from them to put you a little bit more at ease, because they gave you something that you were somewhat familiar with. So you had an encounter with the Tall Whites.

Participant: I recently had a dream that I had a hybrid child, but it had blue skin.

Bashar: Well, that’s a mixture of images because it’s representative of going back to the Anunnaki bloodlines, because the Anunnaki were slightly tinted blue. That’s where the lineage “blue blood” comes from. So you’re looking at a hybridization, but you’re also seeing multiple levels of it that stretch all the way back to the Anunnaki genetically. That’s why it appeared to be a blue child.

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