The Chironic Wound

Q&A Session

Questioner: I am told by another channeled entity named “Friend” that I came into this life with the Chironic wound. Another terminology that applies to this would be “wounded healer.”

Bashar: Yes.

Questioner: My understanding is that it comes out of Greek mythology.

Chiron was a centaur who was an immortal being and a master healer and master herbologist.

Zeus asked him to make the perfect poison which had no antidote and was invariably fatal. Somehow Chiron got himself poisoned by his own perfect poison.

Being an immortal being, he could not die, but he couldn’t heal himself either. So he was in the misery of the poison, and even though he was a master healer, could not come up with an antidote because it was a perfect poison.

Bashar: What we have also called the watermelon seed phenomenon.

When you squeeze a watermelon seed between two fingers to the point where it has no choice but to go in a new direction by shooting out from between them—can’t go up, can’t go down, must go this way.

This also connects to this particular mythology. Can’t go this way, can’t go that way, must go that way. Must move in a new direction to survive and heal.

Questioner: No matter what I do I cannot catch a break. I cannot succeed. I cannot be effective in the realization of my dreams. I have very, very big dreams.

Bashar: Maybe you should reduce the scope of the dreams a little bit.

Questioner: I don’t want to.

Bashar: Why not?

Questioner: Because I’m not interested in a second choice, a second place, a fallback position. I’m doing a kind of shadow version of my dreams. I make videos. what I really feel that I want to be doing is writing and directing major motion pictures. I make video stuff, so it’s definitely a reflection of that kind of activity, but not on the scale that I want to do it. Not in the subject matter that I want to do it.

Bashar: Nevertheless, it is of the same ilk and can be treated with the same energy, so as to allow that as a seed to expand into something bigger.

Questioner: The Chironic wound is kind of like an overriding belief, so overriding that even the efforts that I make to change my core beliefs fail. The overriding belief is that no matter what I do, I can’t succeed. And so if that applies to my efforts to change core beliefs, I’m unable to change core beliefs too, which means I’m unable to change the Chironic wound belief.

Bashar: And how does it serve you to believe that that can’t be changed? You do need to explore that particular avenue, though.

Questioner: I have looked at it and I recognize that there’s all manner of endeavor and exploration that is valid here in this reality, and this is probably the only reality where a belief and life story of that nature could be explored and really, really understood. And I know that many people explore far more devastating life stories than I have. I mean, I still have a roof over my head, although I’m on the brink of homelessness all the time.

Bashar: You know, on the brink—yes. I mean, I’m on the brink. I get to the point of the brink. The brink of destitution, the brink of—I don’t have an answer for that.

Bashar: Yes, you do. What is the name of your story?

Questioner: “The Brink of Tomorrow.”

Bashar: Sure. “The Brink of Tomorrow.” Yes. Your answer lies there.

Questioner: But see, that’s not instructive to me.

Bashar: No, because of the way you are looking at it.

Questioner: I know that I have more looking at to do, and that’s what I’m trying to do.

Bashar: It’s not more looking—it’s different looking that is required.

Questioner: Well, if I do different looking, that requires more looking than I’ve already done.

Bashar: Yes. But not more of the same.

Questioner: I would say that’s true because so far my looking has not been effective. I haven’t come up with an answer. I’m still looking. That’s why I’m asking this.

Bashar: So it needs to be a different kind of looking—a different way of looking at the situation than you have been.

Questioner: I’m open to suggestion.

Bashar: All right. “Brink of Tomorrow” was one suggestion, but obviously not strong enough for the way you are looking at it.

Questioner: Well, one way to interpret that phrase—of course that’s the title of my novel—the character in the story has a reason for hiding from the public.

Bashar: Right. There is no accident that you structured the story the way you did, because there are elements—even though not the same elements—there are elements of the character situation that mirror what you feel about yourself or what you feel others will feel about you if you do in fact go public in the way you wish.

Questioner: I have no doubt of that.

Bashar: A big clue lies there then. And looking at yourself differently in the way that it is achieved at the end of your story is a key for you to begin a new story for yourself, so that you do not have the fear that others will see you in the way that you fear they might if you go public.

Questioner: I don’t feel that fear myself. I’m not in touch with that.

Bashar: I know you’re not in touch with it, but the reason that you put that story in words is so you could—in the easiest way for you intellectually—put it all out right in front of you, right in front of your face, so you could read it and absorb it in the way that you’re used to looking at things intellectually. So it’s all there. You created your own mythology, your own Chironic story, for you to learn from. In really looking at that story and putting yourself in the main character’s position metaphorically, you will learn a lot about what you need to do to look at yourself differently, or look at how you think the world will look at you differently.

Questioner: This is not totally ringing true to me because his affliction was really serious, and it was—

Bashar: Yours is too. It’s just not the same kind.

Questioner: It’s not physical.

Bashar: I said it wasn’t the same kind. But it is nonetheless a metaphor for how you believe people may react to you.

Questioner: I don’t see it.

Bashar: I know you don’t. That’s why you really need to look deeper into the story.

Questioner: I don’t believe that looking into the story will reveal what is in me that I’m…

Bashar: And so you’re not even willing to give it a shot.

Questioner: Not a matter of not being willing—I just don’t see it.

Bashar: You don’t believe it. You said, “I don’t.” How about do believe it and see what happens? If you believe it might actually help you, if you read the story in the belief it might actually reveal something to you, it will. If you read the story not believing it will reveal anything to you about the situation, of course it won’t.

Questioner: Well, this is your own Chironic paradox.

Bashar: I conceived this story over two decades ago, and I kind of have the feeling that I pretty much explored the darn thing.

Bashar: Obviously not all the way through, or we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Questioner: Except that it’s possible that you have taken this particular approach and it’s not necessarily applying as thoroughly to me as you’d like to think it is.

Bashar: You’re entitled to believe that.

Questioner: I’ll certainly look into it. It’s just very difficult for me to see that I have what the problem that he had because I don’t have the physical problem.

Bashar: So you cannot relate the physical metaphor to the idea of a belief system or emotional one—the fear of how people will see you.

Questioner: One of the clues to the difference is the fact that I’m sitting here in front of a bunch of people talking in a broad manner, and I have done public speaking, so I do put myself in front of people.

Bashar: But you are talking about putting yourself in front of people on a different scale. He put himself in front of people in a sense by at least allowing them to hear his voice, and that’s what this is equivalent to for you. But you’re talking about the equivalent of allowing himself to be seen in public, which is the idea you’re talking about—about the grander vision you have of how you wish the public to see you. That’s the equivalency.

Questioner: Let me shift gears for a second. Go back to the Chironic wound. As I understand that story, the resolution for Chiron was that Zeus took pity on him and elevated him to the level of God, and thereby relieved him of his affliction. So I’m thinking, if I have this Chironic wound deal, I don’t have a Zeus to come.

Bashar: Yes, you do.

Questioner: Where is Zeus?

Bashar: Who is Zeus? You are.

Questioner: Ah! But if I have the belief that no matter what I do I can’t be effective in my efforts, then I can’t even be effective as my own Zeus.

Bashar: That’s a belief. Well, you have to examine why you have the belief that you cannot be effective as your own Zeus.

Questioner: I think I have that belief because I came in wanting to explore it and I so far have not come up with the key to resolving it.

Bashar: Remember when we said in the past that the whole idea of what is called on your planet karmic debt is simply the realization that karma is self-imposed, and the realization that karma is self-imposed completely erases the concept of karmic debt. I do recall that. That applies here. The idea that you may have come in with the concept of the Chironic wound or the so-called karmic debt—all it really requires is your ability to understand that if it is self-imposed, then you can be your own Zeus and realize it has nothing to do with you anymore as soon as you say it doesn’t, as soon as you really believe it doesn’t.

Questioner: I understand. I have been through that very train of thought numerous times.

Bashar: Train of thought is not the same as really holding the belief.

Questioner: I understand that as well. My understanding of it is intellectual. I understand it very well intellectually. I know getting it to be understood emotionally and viscerally and at the belief level—that’s where the problem comes in, because it’s a vicious cycle of belief that I can’t do it, and therefore that belief reinforces my inability to put that belief aside, to change that belief. It’s incredibly frustrating and discouraging.

Bashar: Well, one of the reasons we provided the tool we provided today is to see if it will help with situations like this in many of you. So apply the idea of the expanded equation over time and see if it starts breaking down the walls of the belief that you believe is holding you back.

Questioner: I do intend to do that. One aspect of my question is: you structured that circuit breaker to contain emotions in those blanks. This is not so much an emotion but a belief. How would you suggest the belief—the belief generates the emotions of frustration that you express. But I think that if I just put “frustration” in there, it’s not going to get to this core belief represented by the Chironic wound. I’m thinking there’s probably something else that I can put into that blank. What do you think should be there?

Bashar: Maybe just a restatement of the Chironic wound, if you wish. I mean, you can give it a shot. Usually the idea is that when you feel the emotion that stems from the belief, there is then an active resonance that will actually carry through the rest of the equation and bring you back to a place where you may have better insight into what the originating belief is of the vibrational emotion to begin with.

Questioner: So I can impose upon the word “frustration,” for instance—frustration, discouragement, that kind of thing—I can impose upon that vibration the idea of the inability to change the belief structure, all that kind of stuff.

Bashar: Yes, and then continue with the equation and see over time whether it begins to break down the walls or not.

Questioner: Okay. I have one other question on a completely different subject, but related. You talked about the state of the future union and the dissolving of borders between the United States and Mexico and Canada. The people who are currently attempting to do that are doing it with the intention, I believe, of not freeing and enlightening humanity but controlling and oppressing humanity in what they call their own New World Order, via the Illuminati.

Bashar: What’s that got to do with your world?

Questioner: Well, that structure is part of my world.

Bashar: For some reason I’ve chosen to add that. Well, only from afar. Because it actually does impose upon me.

Bashar: I see why. Why do you choose to have it impose upon you?

Questioner: I think because I chose this world. I don’t—that’s another question. Why the hell would I choose a world to have that kind of oppression imposed upon me?

Bashar: So that you can transform it. The idea being that the first step is to understand that even though you can observe it, it doesn’t have to affect you, and that even though somebody may be doing something with a different intention than you would have, you can still use that to your advantage.

Questioner: If the people who are currently attempting to dissolve the borders and impose the New World Order of suppression and oppression of humanity—if that is their intention and yet the ultimate result is going to be an enlightened humanity where the dissolved borders and the use of non-use of money is the ultimate result, how does that transition from the…

Bashar: It doesn’t. As we have already said many times, you’re not changing the old system—you’re implementing new systems that are representative of another parallel reality to which you will take your consciousness, and eventually you will simply no longer experience the systems that are of the old reality because that will be in another reality.

Questioner: Okay. I don’t know that may answer my question, but it doesn’t seem like it does at this point. Right now there is an effort by the architects of the New World Order to impose this New World Order.

Bashar: Do you enjoy speaking like a victim?

Questioner: No, I’m just describing the world.

Bashar: No, no, no. That’s denial. Listen to yourself.

Questioner: I’m just describing the world that I find myself in.

Bashar: Listen—you’re creating this reality. Listen to yourself.

Questioner: But it’s a shared reality.

Bashar: I understand, but you are using words like “impose upon me,” which implies you believe you are being affected by it in a negative way.

Questioner: I didn’t say it’s imposed upon me—I said it’s imposed upon our society.

Bashar: But you’re the one speaking. I’m not the society. Yes, you are. Well, you are a member of society.

Questioner: I’m a member now—that’s a different story. I see. So you like to split hairs.

Bashar: I try to be semantically precise.

Bashar: I believe you would do yourself a great service by being a little bit more metaphorical.

Questioner: Let me establish some ground rules if you will. I do understand that I create my reality. I do understand that I have chosen to create in concert with others—I believe even though I really only know my own reality—this situation in which this New World Order is in process. I do realize that I’m creating it. I do believe that I’m creating it because I and the collective consciousness have chosen to explore this particular eventuality and resolve—learn how to resolve this sort of thing. So I understand that I’m not saying I’m not talking about the imposition of the New World Order from a perspective of not understanding that I’m creating it.

Bashar: I’m simply addressing your ability to recognize that even though you are part of a collective agreement in having that experience around you, it still doesn’t have to affect you in any way, shape, or form that you don’t want it to.

Questioner: I do understand that.

Bashar: All right. Then you don’t need to control things so tightly in order to get them to go in the direction you would prefer them to go into—which is what you’re attempting to do. The idea of the semantic precision and the idea of having to set ground rules and guidelines often can be taken to extremes that represent the idea of exercising and imposing too much control on your own reality to allow it to breathe properly.

Questioner: Please don’t take it to those extremes.

Bashar: And I will not do so if you will also not do so.

Questioner: I won’t do so.

Bashar: But that’s what you are doing.

Questioner: I was just—you know, our language. I don’t mean in this conversation—that’s what you’re doing. You are attempting to control your reality in a way that is actually reminiscent of the way you are saying they are trying to control reality. Even though you have a good intention—they may not—you are still imposing too rigid a structure on your reality to allow it to actually go where you would like it to go. You’re trying to push it into place instead of allowing it to go where it is representative of your bigger self.

Questioner: Believe me, if I could allow it to do that, I would be doing that.

Bashar: Oh, this is one of the problems that I’ve encountered—the ability to allow it seems to—I have not been able to allow it.

Bashar: I know, because you have beliefs that don’t let you. That’s what I’m saying. I know that—I know I have these beliefs, and I have not been able to allow the beliefs to change.

Bashar: That’s perhaps because you haven’t figured out exactly what they are yet. When you identify them clearly, you will let them go. And ideally, as with many other things, the tool we have talked about today will allow you to do that. But it takes identifying the belief clearly. Once you’ve identified it, you will let it go. But you haven’t identified it yet.

Questioner: I have several pages of lists of a whole variety of statements of beliefs that I believe these statements reflect accurately what I’m creating in my life.

Bashar: Let me ask you a question. Do you believe that if you can identify it, you can let it go?

Questioner: I have the conscious belief that that should—

Bashar: Stop. Stop. Okay. You are being too circumspect, and that’s part of the problem. Let me put it this way—

Bashar: No, no, no, no, no, no. That’s part of the problem. Let me put it this way—no, that’s part of the problem. Don’t put it another way. Don’t phrase it. Don’t box it into a specific thing that your mind feels satisfied with. Don’t put it another way. Allow yourself the freedom to insist for yourself that it needs to be looked at in a particular way that may be uncomfortable for your mind to grasp. That’s when you will really make progress.

Questioner: I don’t have any trouble with that.

Bashar: But you see—20 years ago, so you say. I thought that I would—that actually more than 20 years, 30 years ago—I thought that my dreams would just automatically come to realization, and I have been surprised every time that barriers have cropped up. And I realize that I’m creating the barriers myself and that they are the result of my beliefs. I have been surprised to discover that there’s this barrier based on a belief. I thought that my beliefs were all attuned to my dreams coming to fruition.

Bashar: And how did you feel when you found out they weren’t?

Questioner: Discouraged.

Bashar: Thank you. Take that feeling—discouraged—and put it in the tool I gave you today. That’s the feeling you want to put in the blank space. Discouraged.

Questioner: Like I said, I will do that. That’s the intention that I have, and I will do that.

Bashar: That’s it then. That’s all that’s necessary. That’s what you had to get in touch with—was your initial feeling when you were surprised that it wasn’t what you thought. When you felt discouraged, that’s the primal state of vibration you need to put in the blank to allow yourself to neutralize it and find out what beliefs underly that discouragement.

Questioner: I do understand that.

Bashar: Then do it. Then do it. Then do it. I’m going—I intend to.

Bashar: That’s it. That’s it. I just wanted to say that I have been in touch with that feeling.

Bashar: That’s it. Stop explaining it. That’s it. Get in touch with the discouragement and use it this way. That’s it. Don’t explain it further—you’ll only take yourself out of it again.

Questioner: I won’t take myself out of it.

Bashar: Don’t say you won’t take yourself out of it. Don’t keep insisting that you have to have the last word. Just do it. That’s all. Just do it. See if you can do that.

Questioner: Yes, massa.

Bashar: All right. See if you can do it.

Questioner: Oh, I can do it.

Bashar: See if you can do it. Don’t say it—see if you can do it. Just do it. So you’re setting—just do it. Stop talking about it. Just do it.