Interactions with Edmond Wollmann

The Essassani Solar System

Questioner: Is our solar system similar to your solar system?

Bashar: Similar, not exactly.

We are like you the third planet from our sun at approximately what you would call 120 million of your mile age. Our day is not very different from yours.

Little tiny bit longer. Approximately what you would call just over 25 of your hours. But because our orbit is so much wider in that way, you will find that we have a year comprised of what you would call 454 of our days as opposed to 365 of one quarter of the hour. We have planets within our system. Again, different configurations, but similar as a system goes.

Our central star is yellowish green and is called Sha.

The first planet is called seo.

The second is called teni.

The third is ours.

Then the fourth is pest.

Then there is an area that is called vamar which means the zone for it is open where a planet should be.

This is because there is an outer world that comes in a very erratic orbit and has swept that particular area clean of debris in that way but also extends in a parabolic orbit far beyond the orbits of any other world.

Then beyond that there is the double world occupying similar orbits called takupani.

The dancers if you will in the ancient language because their orbit allows them to shift and move as they orbit the central star. So it is like many systems but it is unique like your own system.

Questioner: You only have five planets?

No.

How many there are approximately what you would call seven and they’re the physical representation of what as our solar system as physical representative of collective unconscious energy?

Bashar: They are representative in many ways of the different aspects of our consciousness, in our terms, in our symbology, most of which at this time for us is quite ancient and in this way is not so much paid attention to literally anymore in that sense.

we now know that the system is also the combined collective consciousness of the total idea that we are, even as yours is in that way.

your system, our system, and the stellar system around the star you call Sirius are three aspects of a trinary overall consciousness that in general represent your system physical, our system mental and Sirius being spiritual.

In that way, we tend to now look at the relationships of whole systems rather than the labeling of the relationships of any particular planetary phenomena within any one particular system.

Christ Consciousness and Shakana

Questioner: Christ mastered this system.

Bashar: Christ consciousness is the combined collective consciousness of your system. It recognizes itself as its own entity and it recognizes itself as the combination of all consciousness within that system.

Our collective embodiment of consciousness is referred to in the ancient language as shakana. And in this way, therefore, what you would call your Christ consciousness, our shakana, and the combined consciousness of many other systems together will form the consciousness of what we call shakana sha, light of whites, the infinite creator.

Questioner: when I was about 11 or 12 years old, I had a dream that I was taking aboard UFO. Um, can you clarify whether that was a…

Bashar: No, it was very real. Do remember this. The majority of interactions between members of your society and members of other society, whether they seem physical or not, are actually more of a mental or astral encounter. They may seem physical from time to time and from time to time they may be in your terms truly physical. But a vast majority of even those encounters that seem physical will actually be dream impellers as you have experienced in a very lucid fashion in an astral fashion.

Bashar: Will you care at this time to describe and or define the beings as you remember perceiving them?

Questioner: I don’t actually remember. Do you remember their eyes? Um, what I remember about it was that I was I was taken aboard and shown something. Yeah. And it was very very important that I was told but I cannot remember what it was that I was told. That is all why?

Bashar: For you see, many of the ideas that are shared with you in those dream realities are shared between them and your higher consciousness. Those ideas will come out in your physiological life when the timing is appropriate for them to come out. They are planted within you in that way. You are reminded on a certain level just to let you know that when a certain circumstance comes up, you will know that you have what you need to fill that gap. Even though you may not know what it is right now, you are now preparing yourself in many ways. You are now learning to become in a sense the being that will then be able to know what you will then need to know. You will then need to know it. And at that point when you do know it, that is when you will also have all of the ability which is what you are learning now to apply what you will know then.

Astrology on Essassani

Questioner: do you have a faximile of astrology in in your solar system?

Bashar: Not exactly.

astrology is a recognition of the interlocking vibratory patterns that go into making up the idea, any given idea of any physiological universe or local therein.

it can be expressed in a mathematical relationship to some degree. It can be understood similarly to the way individuals on your planet understand it.

Perhaps the following analogy in that when you are a non-physical being and decide in a sense to project yourself into physical materiality, whatever vibratory pattern, whatever ripples in the primal energy in that physical universe are going on at the time you inject yourself will of course in a sense be solidified as the physical form you perceive yourself to be.

And so of course your physical form is in a sense a frozen version of the vibrations that existed at the timing you became physical.

And so from that, if you melt the ice a little, you can read the radiation that speaks of the vibrations that were going on at the time. And therefore, to some degree does determine the overall quality of the prism, the crystal that you have congealed into. But also astrology is a very instinctive tool. And much of what is perceived of course is reliant upon the astuteness of the individual doing the perceiving as well. So it definitely is a cocreative event.

Questioner: I see it as a reflection of my perception or any individual’s perception of their beliefs within that dimension.

Bashar: Basically, yes, it is a recognition, to put it very colloquially, a recognition of some of the general overall contracts or agreements that have been agreed to be adhered to in order to create the game of any particular dimension or universe. Yes.

Questioner: Is it not true that there is no such thing as time and that the agreement was made not in time.

Bashar: Yes. we are using your colloquial phrase all.

there is such a thing as time when you choose to believe there is. As we have said, the illusion is real while you are in it or appears to be. So, there is a concept of time that is real while you choose to experience it. But yes, in the overall fundamentals and since it is your creation then it is in that sense not really binding. You follow me?

Questioner: Yes. From that level all agreements are being made right now.

Jesus, Mary, and the Virgin Birth

Questioner: In the same vein, is it not true then that uh Jesus who was known as the Christ and soul and Mary were twin souls and that she indeed was a virgin physically.

Bashar: yes, because it was an energy activated cell

Records Between the Pyramid and the Sphinx

Questioner: Guys, um could you give me some information about uh records that are supposedly between the pyramid and the tombs that contain information about previous civilizations that have been here on Earth? Are you aware of this?

Bashar: To some degree, it is primarily between what you would call the Great Pyramid and what you would call the Sphinx. Right? Again, this represents a timing when there is more awareness, more willingness, more sharing. These ideas may come to light somewhere between what you would call 1988, 1994 or six and can represent again some records as you say of what you might call the truer history of your world.

Questioner: Yeah.

Volcanic Ash and Meteoric Bombardment

Questioner: Uh second question, can you shed some light on the volcanic ash or whatever it is deposits that uh have supposedly been found during uh previous to ice ages.

Bashar: There’s not so much many times the idea volcanic although some of it is. Much of it is also what you would call meteoric. You follow me?

Questioner: Right.

Bashar: Your relatively recent theory has some credence of the idea of polarity reversals and what you would call mass extinctions being related to the idea to some extent of meteoric bombardment. You follow?

Questioner: Yes.

The Axis of Uranus

Questioner: Yes. Can you explain why uh Uranus is the only planet whose axis is…

Bashar: It was brushed in a very close encounter in many different ways. It had some of its gravometric potential removed to a different local within the world. It was brushed in a way by a body what you might call a very dark gravitational body which does sweep your solar system from time to time.

Questioner: That the dark sun to some degree. Can you explain this um metaphysically? What does represent?

Bashar: It represented the idea basically of your world in a sense tipping into a subconscious well realm of hidden things of dark times of negative experiences. In many way it was in a sense the turning away of a portion of your consciousness from the light that you are. So that it was a true expression of polarity. Since only one pole at any one time on that world faces the sun, the other always faces out into darkness.

In astrology, it represents um uniqueness and suddeness and creativity. Oh yes. These are the reflections of the attempt to rebel against those dark forces or to regain creativity. To some degree it simply stood as the signal if you will of what was going on in this particular system at the time, an outer marker if you will of the polarity that was now being experienced and expressed in your system. And yet it carries that symbolic reference archetypically. Yes. Yes. Oh yes. Oh, you intuitively understand what it represents in terms of your timing.

**Questioner:**I asked you for the metaphysical meaning of Uranus. But you gave me the symbolism for Saturn.

Bashar: there are many different degrees of symbolism and also there are many different attributes to the particular mathematical tool you are using. Now in one level the idea of your honor does represent certain subconscious knowledge

Questioner: Utar um from what I can understand the symbolism of it, it is similar to my perception of yours. All right. And you said that in your civilization you see events of the both both polarities make one event. Yes. Okay. So what I perceived was that the symbolism actuality from what I understand and what I perceive Uranus has to exist because of Saturn. In other words, there is one event all life.

Bashar: But that is true of your entire solar system, right? I recognize that all life.

Seven Months Gestation and No Moon

Questioner: Uh my other question was uh you said that there was seven months gestation for birth civilization. Um, I guess you meant in our terms.

Bashar: Yes. Correct.

Questioner: Okay. You don’t have a moon.

Bashar: We do not have a moon.

Questioner: Okay. Does this represent the fact that the masculine and feminine forces were never separated?

Bashar: Never.

The Civilization and Metaphysical Nature of Proion

Questioner: Um, oh, also I would like to know if you could give me some information on the civilization and the metaphysical nature of Proion.

Bashar: The first perception, the first quality is of tubular energy, vortex energy, vortex gates.

They are a mentality that expresses itself in a series of interconnecting layers and levels. The level of proon that we are familiar with does not identify strongly with your dimensional plane.

Although it does make use of an ethermagnetic type of mentality similar to the one you express your mentality in in your physical existence, but uses it in a method that is almost impossible to be experienced in your dimensional plane. They are extremely rarified. You may even call them gaseous, but we are not necessarily referring to what you would call their bodily form.

They are an inverted society.

Inverted into each other, through each other, transparent in many ways to each other and yet at the same time highly refor mostly is through the aspect of myself which is in that sense his future self and the serious connection is my future self.

So it forms the complete triad of energy that is represented by your world, our world and the world you would call sistine which orbit the star you would call Sirius.

It is a balanced energy. The connection is there because communication is necessary on all three points of the triad in order for there to exist a fulcrum upon which a lever of transformation can be moved to assist your earth in acceleration. The connection is not as direct perhaps as some of other individuals upon your world might have for it is basically a connection of purpose of specific purpose specifically for the transformational energy that is necessary. The connection between my world and the physical channel is more direct. Although there are tangential connections with Sirius expressed in some of the individuals with whom he associates to act and assist as a balancing factor in terms of energy.

Uranus Conjunction and Sirius Connection

Questioner: I was curious because Uranus was in conjunction or in the same area of space from the perspective of our solar system at the time of his entrance into material physical reality.

Bashar: It is because basically since Sirius represents the fulcrum that will move the polarities together and blend them in a sense then it simply can function as a symbolic expression that one of the primary reasons in the contract we have made for the channel being physically existent upon your world at this time was to do what is being done to come through those subconscious realms that have for a long time maintained distance between the polarities upon your planet and with that energy coming from Sirius let us say blasting through that door to create a vortex that draws the energy of the polarity together with it and brings it down to earth you understand