Part 2 of Frames of Reference

Bashar Bashar
292 min read

Attraction to the Skies

Asker
I’ve had a tremendous attraction to the skies in the last couple of weeks. And the other night, I was looking at a craft that I believe was an earthcraft. And then at one instant, my attention was drawn as as though my name were called, although there was no u sensation of a name being called, but the attraction of my attention was such that it was immediately to my left. I looked directly at another craft which I believe was a dirt craft. At least in the form that I saw it, it was a dirt craft. Was this what you call Sunday?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
No, I believe it was Tuesday.
Asker
And I do know that my attraction to the skies does relate to other civilizations and communication entities coming to me from that. All right. I don’t have a real specific sense of that. It’s just a general on this. Yeah. But I’m wondering with this this experience of my attention being attracted to an earth craft and it was quite specific. Um was I thinking that I was seeing an earth craft and I was in fact seeing another craft, extraterrestrial craft.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Not so specifically. Our perception of what you are doing is beginning to open doorways that can allow you to begin to change your perceptions and begin to recognize what physical symbols in your reality may be able to become may have connections to in other dimensions of experience. Okay. What you would call a standin for an idea. You are preparing yourself to see more little later. You are practicing with something familiar.

Trust and Understanding

Asker
Louis, I wanted to ask you about the idea of understanding exactly how everything fits together in our lives at this level of our consciousness.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You mean trust?
Asker
You mean those two words interchangeable?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes.
Asker
So it’s really is it really necessary for us to understand what is going on?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
It does not have to be what you call an intellectual understanding. No. Right. Because it seems to me that it’s quite beyond the conscious level that you’re at. Now, parts of it can become conscious if that serves the purpose of the path you trust yourself to be. They will be there as you need them to be there automatically. But not everything needs to translate into that conscious level for you to allow it to continue to manifest and reap the experience and the benefits of your trust.
Asker
Right? Which leads me to the next thing I want to ask you today. Our unfoldment mind that’s what all right call it is going to progress regardless of our conscious understanding of it in a sense.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes.
Asker
What do you mean in a sense?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You can choose to create a scenario in which it seems you are not progressing but in an overall sense to the higher self it is still learning something. So in that sense it is still progress. You follow me.
Asker
But I want to thank you. Our enlighten our path of enlightenment. Yeah. It’s pretty much could you say it’s on it’s an automatic it’s on automatic.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
This entire idea of knowing that is allowing yourself to become aware of the fact that you have never been off your path. Okay. So in that sense interaction with your higher self. Yay. Uh I don’t even know how to say it. Interaction with your higher self is the degree to which your physiological consciousness is willing to trust that the life it is experiencing is the result of the choice made by the higher self to have this experience and you can trust that everything you are doing fits into the path you chose to be. Right? More even it is not that you are on the path it is that you are a path and as we have said you cannot be off yourself.

Acceleration, Planning, and Free Will

Asker
To accelerate uh your growth so to speak. Yes. Would actually be a result of pre-planning.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Not really. It can be spontaneous. Living in the moment, you can create the illusion that it is pre-planned. But even the idea of creating a pre-planning is a spontaneous creation. You are always in the now moment, always new, you are always creating spontaneously in that way. Whether you are believing that it is a plan that allows you to do so or not.
Asker
But we did make a plan before we came here.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar

Correct.

Only in the most general terms. As we have discussed, there are two types of free will. The free will of the higher consciousness and the free will of your physiological consciousness. The free will of the higher consciousness determine the general concepts you would explore in physical life.

And to the physical consciousness, those general terms will seem like destiny or predestination, but they are only in the most general terms.

The methodologies, all of the ways as to how to experience those general concepts is up to the creation of the physiological consciousness here in physical life. And you may do it in any way, shape or form you desire to. As the analogy we have used, the higher consciousness will determine that you will walk down a hallway in this life. But it is only that general. How you walk down a hallway is up to the physiological consciousness to create spontaneously in whatever way it chooses to create it. Whether you decide to plan to walk down the hallway or simply walk down it encountering what you will spontaneously, automatically synchronistically, whether you run, whether you go backwards, whether you turn out the light, whether you crawl, whether you swim, whether you stick to the ceiling, it is up to you. The idea is that you will go down that hallway. How you go down it is up to your choice here as the physiological free will consciousness. Because to the higher self, it is all learning.

Manifesting and Symbols

Asker
You me? Yes. Then you you were telling me I was telling you about how I feel that I need to have a car and a someplace to live. Some kind of an you were telling me not really. So maybe maybe I was wondering does that mean that it’s counterproductive to me to look and I should just trust that something will turn out.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
It is not counterproductive for you can utilize the experience to create the idea of excitement. But do not put expectation that it must manifest in the way you think it should. The idea simply is in that way when you allow yourself to focus on what it is you truly want to do, then your energy will draw along with it all of the things that need to get you there. And if a car is one of them, you will draw it right along automatically. The idea simply is is that if you want the car primarily because you think you need a car to do something else that actually represents where you are most excited, then the idea of focusing on the car is not putting your excitement where you know it belongs. You follow me? Then you are diverting yourself. You follow me?
Asker
I created a symbol for myself where I’m playing with my friend and she gave me a key to the house that would not work. Oh my. I ended up I went around the back of the house and it turned out she had left one of her doors unlocked and I got in the back. There you are. So I thought that an expression that there are many doors through which these opportunities can come. Not the one you expect to go through. Well, I thought that that was a symbol to me that anything that I try to do is not the right thing.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
So you have chosen to look at the neutral situation negatively and I have chosen to look at it positively.
Asker
It was more not like a negative sort of thing to me but just that um when you say not right in your language that means negative. Thank you. Thank you. It was more an expression to me that trying to do it in the direct way that like our civilization would go out and get the yellow pages or uh get a newspaper and then start looking.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
That is not to say that cannot work if that is what is a reflection of the way you believe it will work. But understand all we are suggesting is that there are many other ways it can work. Do the one that is reflective of the way you believe it can and it will. If you know that looking through your yellow pages is not for you, then trust that your imagination will do its job and provide for you the methodology that is attuned to your vibration. Follow it. That is the alternate doorway that you can go through. You understand?
Asker
Are you sure? I’m never sure until I try to apply it and see what happens.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
I see. May we remind you that the idea is that believing is seeing, not seeing is believing. You follow me, thinking. Now, one more reminder. Trying is doing trying, not doing the thing you are trying to do. All right? And all the trying is not what will allow you to do that thing. Doing it is what will allow you to do it. And though you may think that all the trying you have been doing is what ultimately allows you to do it, in a sense that is not so. You have been utilizing that time to allow yourself to become willing to simply do it.

Dancing, Knees, and Dietary Questions

Asker
I’ve been having a lot of fun lately with food. I’ve been eating and finding out about new kinds of food to make and dance and a couple other things. But that’s the main different ways to sustain yourself. All right. Different ways to sustain whatever. I really like to dance. Today my knees hurt and like what I really wanted to do, like what was really exciting was to turn on the radio. Oh, and then what I really want to do tonight is I want to go to Forge and go western dance and take a dance lesson. But I know if I do that, I’m going to hurt my knees because I I hurt them doing too much jump roping about a month ago and then I got a commission for dances in two weeks. So a little bit bored.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
But is that because you have not allowed yourself to recognize an opportunity to do something else?
Asker
I don’t want to do anything. It’s like All right. I mean I do. I mean there’s other things that when I had the break there was other things I got into the food thing which is really fun cuz I eat.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
All right. But are your knees hurting now?
Asker
Yeah. All right. Just a little. Just a little.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Just a little. Then dance a little. And stop. Okay. Now again, allow your physical reality to be an obvious reflection of what you are choosing to show yourself about some portion of your personality, of your identity, of your consciousness. Is there many other ways that this idea of this symbology can serve you? Has your imagination given you any other ideas about why you have created that particular symbol?
Asker
Um well one but I didn’t really like it. It’s like so well so I didn’t like it. So what what was it? But what it was is I thought well maybe I shouldn’t be doing so much dancing. But then on the other hand, I go, “Yeah, but that’s what I want to do.” And it seems kind of contradictory, you know, like I feel like, well, maybe this is a time.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
May I ask you a question? Why do you?
Asker
Because it’s fun.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
And why else?
Asker
I like the interaction with the people. All right. I enjoy the people a lot. I I’m learning things about hanging around a whole different type of people. And I like it physically. It feels good. I like uh being able to move my body in music. All right. I I love country western music.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Is there any aspect about what the dancing has allowed you to discover that you do not like?
Asker
No. All right.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Now, may I ask you another question? How would you feel if you never danced again?
Asker
Well, I don’t think I’d like that. Why not? Well, but he’ll finally found a dance partner. No, no. I mean, I’m sure it would work out fine because if I never dance again, it would just lead me on to some other opportunity. But right now, it’s like I’m getting good at this one particular dance and I want to continue, you know.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Have you interacted with anyone about what you would call physiological therapy for your niece?
Asker
Um, no. I didn’t really know the terms of that kind of you know there may be some beings here that could suggest something for you. Can somebody suggest something? Sure. Yeah. Suggesting to the All right.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Now understand this. What they will suggest is a description of a process that you are creating. It may not even be so much that you must go to the completion of their suggestion, but that taking them up on that suggestion and pursuing that particular idea may lead you to an understanding and a discovery about something that will relate to your dancing that you can utilize. Yeah. Yeah. You see, in this way, there is no need to fight the idea that you must force yourself through your so-called adversity to continue to dance. Allow yourself to have given yourself a symbol to make the associations relative to what you are creating for yourself and to seek out sharing with other individuals in other ways other than the dancing that can enhance the dancing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Asker
Well, I want to ask you one more thing. This kind of fits in with the food and All right. Um, I changed my diet dramatically and it really feels good. And I I like I like the kind of food. I mean, it’s really I really like the food. Oh, it’s really I mean, I made some great cornbread tonight. All right. Very good corn. It was delicious.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Did you bring enough for everybody?
Asker
No, I ate all of it. I shared some with some people at my house that we She is sharing it right now. Oh, it was good. All right. And So, I had a feeling I had a bit of a vitamin deficiency and I wasn’t going to ask anybody what what they thought or get checked out on that because I thought if I follow what I feel like eating and what seemed right that you know I would come across it. Yes. And I I didn’t know if it had anything to do with my knees like maybe we fingers like that about a month. Yes. The lotion doesn’t even No. And I wondered if you perceive any particular vitamin or mineral something big.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Have you completely excised what you call dairy products from your diet?
Asker
Not completely, but that’s something I’ve been doing. I’ve been cutting out the butter and the cheese. Today I had butter on my toes, but for the most part, that’s a big cheese.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Our perception is that it does have something to do with that. At the same time, we also find that our self-imposed restriction upon allowing information to come out that would be an interference in your process is in effect, which means you are supposed to talk to someone else. Okay? Talking to that someone else will be a part of the path you have chosen to be for you will learn something else from them other than just the dietary idea.
Asker
They might be a dance teacher would be or anything. Yes. But let me when you were saying that thing about dairy, were you in any way implying that I perhaps do need more of that or I don’t or were you just saying perhaps there is a possibility of what you call calcium or something close to the idea that I would need more of or maybe our self-imposed limitation is allowing this for us to be extremely sketchy. I had a feeling about calcium, but I I didn’t want it from the dairy fac.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
There is some other sources you can allow yourself to draw from. That is not our position, but the position of the other individual. That is the specifics we cannot share.
Asker
Oh, I see the other individual right now.
Asker

Out-of-Body Experience and Fear of Physical Reality

Asker
I experienced an out-of body experience that I remember very vividly. I enjoyed it tremendously.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You obviously made the choice to come back. Here you are.
Asker
The experience there was um a figure coming in and it was like we were going to start talking. Yes. And the next thing I know I’m back in bed. When I had asked later about that experience, why did I have to leave? Because the conversation was done. Well, what I had gotten was that my body was in danger.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes and no. And I was surprised by that. So I wanted to ask only in the sense that you were recognizing as was part of the purpose of the conversation that you had that fear within you. That was the only danger. The recognition of that fear in a sense is what pulled you back. But that was also the purpose of the conversation to let you know you had it. You follow me kind of.
Asker
Yeah.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You gave yourself the opportunity to discover through that conversation and through the returning that you are dealing with ideas connected to fearing to be in physical reality for many different reasons. Feeling that physical reality somehow is more of a burden than the idea of the spirit world. You follow me?
Asker
Yeah.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Now in this way recognize as long as you make that differentiation that is what allows it for you to be perhaps difficult to face the idea of coming back but that is what makes it imperative to come back. You have chosen to be here for many different reasons. Allow yourself the opportunity to recognize you knew what you were doing when you made that choice and you still do know what you are doing. And also physical reality and spiritual reality are only different not better and worse than each other. You are a spirit right now right here in physical terms. You follow me?
Asker
That is true. One of the ideas in the conversation also was to begin to remove the differentiation between the created levels you have made in your consciousness.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
So that by recognizing yourself as one consciousness, you can easily blend in a sense back and forth between the physical and the dream reality and begin to live your dreams.
Asker
Yeah. In a constant dream, constantly awake.
Asker

Channeling and Self-Discovery

Asker
I have another question and that is um one of my master’s well I’ve been told my master’s name is um Acatun and I’m also channeling um an entity called Auna um um sound fishy to you and I picked up on the correlation of the two and I’d like to ask you about Yeah.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
What about him?
Asker
Can you tell me anything about it?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Maybe. Oh, please. Will not do it. Um, make a statement of conviction. What is it to you?
Asker
I get a sense that the two well that we are related.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Continue.
Asker
And I would like to know more about that and continue. Um I I don’t know. Oh, come on. Please.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Reach into that imagination that is not separate from you. Make allow there to be one reality, one dimension of imagination in which all is real. Go ahead.
Asker
One of the things I would like to know what why am I channeling a tuna and I I understand to teach me a a part of myself. All right. Okay. And the openness of myself. But you know I is that not enough? I get a sense of more.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Ah, you do. Then describe it. If you get a sense of it, you must know what it is. Otherwise, you will not get a sense of it. What is it?
Asker
What is the more is it being of service?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes.
Asker
How is of serving me and I am serving? Well, it sounds corny, but I get a sense of corny. It’s opening me myself up even more.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes.
Asker
And allowing me to experience the universe in greater depth.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes.
Asker
And I still get a sense that somehow a tuna and it’s like they’re connected. I mean, I just and I don’t I I have a block on and I applaud.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
One moment. A brief word once again about the idea of blocks. A block is not a wall. It is a signpost telling you to move in an unexpected direction. When you judge that that unexpected direction does not fit into the path you think you should be on or stay on, that is when it becomes a wall and seems like a block to force you left or force you right to let you know that going left or going right is the way to go straight ahead. Follow the sign. If it says turn here, turn. You are only judging the unexpected. That is all a block is. You are judging the unexpected to not be a part of the path you chose to be. Trust. Trust. Trust. Follow the direction the sign, the wall, the block points you in. Explore the idea of the block. For one, if you find that you are blocked, you are implying that the block is preventing you from taking another step on a path you think you should be walking on. But the block is a part of the path. Go into it and explore it. The block itself is a part of the path.
Asker
What I interpret the block as being very um close to heart. It’s it’s so close to me. Um, it’s like hitting me in the solar plexus or whatever.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
That is the chakra of your intentions and the connection to your future self. You wish you’re not going to tell me anything about we are discussing it. Keep going. This is all predicated upon your willingness to keep walking the path that you are. Then we can share more and more details. But only as long as you keep walking. Okay, we are luring you to yourself. Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity. Continue.
Asker
Well, one of the things I’ve gotten about Altuna was that I was being prepared. Yes. For a stronger energy. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Continue. And I wanted to know more about that. And I
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You will obviously as we have said, you are creating your own destiny. Dates with destiny are always on time. You will not miss them. You will know everything you need to know in any given moment to allow you to function by definition within the agreement you have made. Otherwise, what’s the purpose?
Asker
Well, one of the things is that I only channel Altuna with very close friends. So because of the vulnerability of channeling ah vulnerability that means weakness. No very good. And I am my sense of I am just a baby in the sense of taking the first step in channeling. All right. And to do it in a massive number of people would not make me feel too good at this point. All right. Um but I have been told that I
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
you understand of course that you are in a sense channeling right now with a lot of people around.
Asker
Yes. And I and I feel very vulnerable
Asker
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Bashar
which means you feel very strong.
Asker
Yes. Yeah. I don’t feel weak on it. All right. Very good.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You are open and that degree of willingness and that openness is what will allow you to know you are preparing yourself perfectly for the degree of energy that you will be experiencing later once the idea of your own higher self altuna in that way becomes more familiar to you.
Asker
One of the things I wanted to ask was I had gotten that Artum was an eastern um ruler type energy in a sense. Yeah. Well, I had gotten it was like one of his past lives and we’ve been connected on that. But I I you know I just want to know a little bit more.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You are more closely connected than you think. You are the same energy.
Asker
And what about off?
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Bashar
Bashar
Understand you are creating a differentiation in one consciousness.
Asker
Then it’s a tune of my higher self.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes.
Asker
Is also two of my higher self.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
In a sense it represents the idea of a blending of an oversoul, a higher self and a future self. When you bring those three ideas concurrent within your physiological consciousness through your willingness to be comfortable within your vulnerability, then you will be prepared for the stronger energy within all of and a connection to something you would recognize to be other consciousness. Okay? which will have connections to some degree to the idea of the past and also the future if you wish. Yeah. Okay. Um, understand that what we are saying to you right now is our perception of what needs to be said to allow you to continue in the way that represents the way you have chosen to continue. When you make differences in the idea that you are to yourself, there may be other representations we can make that will make more sense to the new you you become.
Asker
When will the new you find when will the new me finally?
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
That is up to you. You are always always a new you. You are a new you. Right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. The definition you give to that new you will determine what that new you is able to experience. Your choice. One moment is not connected to the next. The present is not a result of the past. Moment of opportunity. Yes. And you are always complete in every moment by definition or you would not exist.

Problem vs. Situation and Dog Symbolism

Asker
I have a problem. And that is um all right.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
I will remind each and every one of you whether or not you have heard it before that I am becoming selectively third density deaf. And in this way, the idea of choosing certain terminology which only has the vibration of reinforcing your inability to change the situation that is easily changed will be something I will usually call out to us. The idea you call a problem is simply a situation you will not allow to change shape. Yeah. Okay. The word problem and the word habit. You are giving those words the power that says this means it is difficult to change. It is your formula. Change your definition. You are creating a situation. Situations can change more easily than problems can. So you have a situation.
Asker
Yes. Um No, it’s good. Thank you. I have a I have a situation that My dog is going um deaf and blind and he has bitten you know um my father and a few other people right and when I
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
more exploration of vulnerability more exploration of the idea of the fear that as you explore dogs in your society represent as you explore or the idea of becoming vulnerable, therefore stronger within strength. But because you are exploring some of the idea within judgment and fear, you are assuming that as you cut off your physiological senses in a way to explore the idea of your inner awareness, that you will miss the mark, that you will be of service negatively rather than positively. Yes. That you might in that way bite the hand that feeds you. But you do not have to worry about the idea. The animal is giving you an opportunity to explore all of these ideas and explore them you will whether you explore it consciously or not and you will integrate that understanding that symbol that lesson from that loving animal consciousness in perfect timing to be able to incorporate that within your service. So you will always be precisely in that way valid and on the mark as you need to whether or not you are in connection with the same reality perceptually that you were to begin with or not. You will be in connection exactly as you need to be. You will be perceptive.
Asker
And I feel very torn in my heart.
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Bashar
Torn in your heart?
Asker
Well, it pains me.
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Bashar
Why?
Asker
Because my my feeling is that I have to put my dog to sleep. And maybe well maybe not hopefully not but there is no hope about it.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Understand the dog is willing to provide a symbol for you so that you can grow. The idea may be that if the dog co-creates with you the idea of being put to sleep, perhaps your fears will also be laid to rest. It is up to you. Not that it has to happen that way, but in this way recognize if it does, it is an act of love on the part of the dog and it will only increase your joy. Therefore, allow it to be an act of love and you will not be saddened but joyful. You follow me?
Asker
Not yet.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
All right. Sleep on it. Getting there.

Dreams, Holographic Consciousness, and Third to Fourth Density Transition

How’s everything going? continue. Yes. First I wanted to share something. Um when I’m meditating I like to imagine connecting with my higher self and nice um and also other entities and other aspects of higher self. Nice. And um I used to use an image that was very linear like a hierarchy. All right. And I decided I don’t like it because it’s two dimensional. And what came to me was to visualize it as a spiral. All right. And that was really Well, thank you.

The I have two questions. Um one is the other night I had well well last night I had a dream which is very different from most of the dreams that I have. Well now that you are more holographic than linear that is to be expected. Okay. Okay.

Um anyway I don’t have a sense of what you know I don’t really understanding this way first of all as we have said one of the things that can occur when you are more so to speak deeply into the dream reality than usual will be that when you wake up physically and create a dream symbol by which to remember the experience

If it is very unlike your physical reality, the experience that you had, then your physical ego structure will not have as many symbols to draw from as usual and it will use the symbols that are closest to represent the experience. It will do the best it can.

Otherwise in this way simply recognize that therefore the dreams in a sense that sometimes will make the least amount of sense physically are representative of experiences that were more deeply non-physical and for which there is no physical analogy in following right well I guess more than the the the physical aspects of the dream which were unusual there was a quality of the dream that I didn’t like such as well in the I mean um when I’m with I’m in parties or in a different civilization and the people that are my parents and myself included I’m not familiar with as myself.

It is not as if you know like in dreams that I have now I even if my mother in my dream look physically different I can still tell my mother. This does not in this dream I had dreams of other mothers and other brothers.

Yeah. Well, okay. Um, the aspect that’s physically different is that I’m in two parties at the same time, right? And that the that I am split where in one party I am physically there as well as I feel more there. All right. In the other party that I’m attending, the one I feel most at is my parents party. The other party I feel there physically but not there as fully right and it’s like a physical plane of glass or well anyway that’s how I see it separates the two all right very good although that’s not how I experience the in those two parties guys okay

um but the quality I didn’t like is that I attended the second party because there was a woman there who loved me or was in love with me. Okay. And I wanted to experience my power over her. All right. And that so now you know you do not prefer to go to that party anymore. Right.

So you are giving yourself the holographic simultaneous representation of the transition from third to fourth density through the membrane the window through which you can see but that is the separation of the two densities. You understand the idea of third and fourth density correct? Yes I do understand.

Then in this way you are simply recognizing that all of the different reasons that you have explored in third density about judgment and domination is no longer representative of the party you wish to attend. And that relationships can be formed within unconditional love and recognition of the different portions of yourself and self-empowerment so that you can enjoy yourself without having in this way to force yourself upon anyone to get that sense of power because it is already there. You follow me?

So I guess yes I follow that. But my my question is, right? Um or at least I’m not sure that I fully understand why I had an image of myself being in a situation where I wanted power over something. Are you saying that I have the choice now or that I’ve only made the choice of the choice?

Yes, you have made the choice. And you are simply using as an analogy the reflection that the entire idea of third density was to explore the idea of separation and judgment. You follow me? Okay. So and expressing your power by domination as opposed to integration. That has been the whole idea of your third density reality.

Then then I guess I don’t understand another aspect of the dream in which at my parents party nice there were it seemed as though my parents and my brother all three of those people were sick. All right. And my my mother walked through the living room. Nice. And he was speaking to my father who I could not see and she said to him, “I’m wearing I’m not going to be wearing the plastic mask that I usually wear.” And there’s only been two other occasions. She reminds him there’s only been two other occasions in their marriage where she had slept with him without this mask, without his separation. All right. And then who walks true to a wall is amazing to me? Not really.

Again, it is still an exemplification of the idea that when you choose to nurture yourself, your own motherhood toward yourself within the idea of forming relationships that are direct and open and honest and in this way not dominations over another, which is only the showing of a mask and not your true self because you are afraid to show your true self.

The vulnerability that is strength. When you show the true self and gain the strength of that vulnerability and the relationship is direct and onetoone in that way, you will walk through any walls. There will be no barriers. You will proceed and all those portions of yourself that you may have formed relationships with that seem to be withering or atrophying will be reestablished as solid relationships. You follow me? Yes, they’re solid.

I’m very much relieved that seems like it’s a native dream. Understand in this way simply any opportunity to view an idea like that is an opportunity to recognize you have already worked through the idea otherwise you would not have the recognition. I guess in the dream I feel as though I had chosen one party over the other. No no no no. You do not know what you felt in the dream. You follow me?

Yes. Thank you very much for your sharing and your willingness to love all facets of your being.

Dreams and Simultaneous Existence

in my dreams recently I’ve been experienced a phenomena where it feels like I have memories within the dream.

In a sense you are memories in a dream all in the present. Well, again, it is the idea of being holographic that you contain all the information simultaneously that you need to contain to represent any particular projection of yourself into any particular time frame.

You are seeing the overlapping idea of all that you have ever been or ever will be and are now simultaneously.

So then that the memories that I um sort of perceive in those dreams are just an expression of that holographic that it is your opportunity to see the multi-dimensional multi-layered aspects of yourself all existing simultaneously.

I have one last question. All right. Um the other night, um the man that I live with, Joseph, woke up, um and he was like screaming from a dream that he was having a nightmare. And ever since that night, I have it’s like I he fell right back to police. He doesn’t remember any of the content of that dream or anything. I laid awake in a lot of anxiety.

And you did not even have the nightmare. No.

And it felt to me as though I mean I know this isn’t accurate but it’s the way it felt to me. So he but it is valid. Continue as if he had ripped my protection from the astral.

Well, I just feel like there’s more anxiety than Oh, there is more energy in your life. Creative that you are judging which is what makes it anxiety. Excitement and anxiety is the same energy. You follow me?

And you do not need protection. You follow me? Yeah.

So, what has been removed is the veil of your supposition. Meaning that they the position that I need is Yes. So you are now raw and exposed to your own power.

The Universe is Made of Love

You venue. Um the universe love the universe is made of love. You’re not supposed to do anything because the universe is unconditional love. Unconditional love.

Now the idea that you are expressing simply is that when you recognize that you are made of love and exist in your natural state then you will live in a universe of love. It is not that you are supposed to do anything but that is your choice to recognize that you are love it and therefore everything you do is an act of love.

When you allow yourself to consciously realize that your life will be filled with that love and reflection of that unconditional love and light and trust.

It is simply in this way not that we did not cry when we said that we did but also recognize it was not for the same reasons and the original definition of our society is different than yours. You are simply assuming that all societies go through the same changes and they do not go.

No, No, understand to recognize that you are made of love in a sense is not really a goal. It is a state of being. Goals are immediately, time oriented things, spatially oriented things, consciousness oriented things. They are perception. They are perspective. That is all goals are points of view.

In this way, if we recognize that many different individuals and civilizations can express the love that they are in many different ways. I understand what you mean in a timelinear sense and in a sense that is something that is occurring within creation but it is not something that will ever end.

You can recognize yourself as a loving being and recognize that you can choose to be negative. And if you recognize yourself as a loving being, knowing that you are completely self-empowered to create anything you want without having to be negative, it is up to you to choose whether you prefer to be negative or not. You do. The universe does not know. You do.

You have created the universe. All that is is the universe. In a sense, it is existence itself. You have created your specific version of the universe experientially.

Judgment exists within your particular manifested universe. It does not exist within ours as a manifestable thing. It exists as a potential. Anyone can create a universe in which they can allow themselves to be judged. We have simply chosen to do otherwise as you are now choosing to do otherwise.

Channeling and Enjoying Life

I have a situation in my life that up to this point I have not allowed. All right. How is it serving you then? If you enjoy it so much. I do not enjoy it. All right. What is it doing for you? All right. Then it is serving you.

Well, I was actually preferring the other thing which I had not allowed to manifest. What other things? No, my channel seems to disappear. Disappeared? I’m I’m not challenging. I don’t You are. Of course you are. What do you think you’re doing right now? Oh. Oh.

All this is not good enough. What kind do you mean? I’m talking about. All right. Why do you prefer that kind over this kind? You don’t know. Then how do you know you preferment? Ah, excite you. All right. What does your excitement indicate in your imagination for you to do? Well, any pictures, any feelings, do not judge them. Oh, that’s silly. Anything at all. What is the first thing that comes? Don’t think about it. Don’t analyze it.

Well, let it go for a while. All right. Let it go for a while. All right.

And in letting it go, you will enjoy the life you are living in the meantime. Yes. For it is equal to anything else you could be doing. Yes.

Then understand that enjoying life is a part of the process of the channel. You are not being interrupted. You can’t be interrupted. You follow me?

The highest consciousness. It is regulating what will allow you to be comfortable with the channeling. So you will not feel disoriented in a negative way. All right?

You will give yourself the polarity stability to create channeling which will connect you to many other ideas and the enjoyment of your life here which will in a sense ground you in your terms so that you can function. Otherwise, what would be the point to follow it?

Now, are there other things in your life that you would desire to do that you are not doing? Do any of them excite you at all? A little bit. I place more importance on other things. All right. Do you place more importance on those other things because they excite you or simply because you place more importance on them?

What I’m saying is the channeling is actually the thing that is more important that excites you the most. All right.

Then understand first and foremost that if that is true for you, you are always channeling in exactly the way you need to. Sometimes channeling is for you.

Separation and Forgetting

Yes, sir. You saw Have you uh personally experienced the degree of limitation separation that we have in my present incorporation?

Or do you mean as my past self that you recognize to be the physical channel before you? All right. All right. Thank you. separation between each other being separate and all that.

Well, they’re all these different densities and their beings in different cultures on different stars in different times. We are as societies as civilizations separate from each other. Yes.

So I’d like to ask you to talk about why would I hear the same so that you can create the exploration of a specific idea. If you cannot forget that you are the creator of your reality, how can you experience a reality in which you seem to be limited? All right.

But that is the general idea. You have chosen to experience what it is like to be limited and you can create that kind of differentiation because you are the creator of your reality. So you can pretend to forget. So that for a while you can see what it is like to not know who you are.

That is the basic reason for all of the differences because all of the differences are all the different ways All-That-Is has of experiencing itself simply because we can. It doesn’t need any more meaning than that.

Energy, Fear, and the Fear Hotel

Asker

We’ve been talking about a lot of people with experiences within their living space. I had a question relating to that. One thing that I’ve dealt with in my apartment has been the development of energy that I realized in person myself.

However, other people are also experiencing it with different results. I realized that that was also a way to accelerate the process of growth for everyone involved.

My question is when people are experiencing what they perceive as negative energy because of the strength of the energy that’s in place, at what point do I differentiate between my own personal reflection—

Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You are not experiencing negative energy because of the strength of the energy but because of your viewpoint of the energy.
Asker
Right. Well, I’m finding that personally I’m dealing with that and I understand that if I perceive of it as negative, that’s my own creation because I can variously experience it as a real energizing energy or negative depending on how I choose to experience.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
You can still allow yourself to recognize energy that is being expressed negatively and simply let the fact that you can recognize it serve you positively whether or not the initial energy changes itself. Okay.
Asker
My concern—same thing could happen—it’s been for other people who experience it and have had more extreme reaction. In that initially what happened to make me quite aware of the energy in that specific space was a friend noticing an energy enter the room and something attempted to channel through spontaneously where he felt not in any way prepared for the experience and became hysterical.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
All right. And did it stop?
Asker
Only after about 2 hours of conscious attempt to remove that from the physical state.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
All right. Why did they choose to believe that they must go through that experience in such a struggle? That’s something for that person to work out.
Asker
I believe correct. At the same time other people who have been let’s say on the spiritual path and rather sensitive path have had similar types of reactions in terms of extreme fear when entering my apartment. Now I don’t necessarily play that type of reality in every space that I deal with these people and I’m wondering at what point is my own energy involved or their energy or any earth related energy specific.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
It is all in a sense part and parcel of the same thing for what you are doing is assuming that you are giving them an opportunity to look at portions of themselves that they feel. That is the kind of hotel you are running. Come to the fear hotel. Every room guaranteed to reflect a portion of yourself. You’ll be terrified. So all individuals who wish to have the type of vacation where they want to experience a portion of themselves in fear, come here. For I am willing to co-generate with you that type of energy so that you will know on some level that when you come and interact with that energy and experience your fear you are doing it in a safe place. Follow me.
Asker
My personal concern in this level of reality is in the practical aspect of people becoming reluctant to—
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Then you can become the type of host that has the willingness and the conviction to explore the idea with them in a way that will allow them to know that fear is only a messenger, bringing them another portion of themselves so that they do not have to experience it negatively any longer. And then entice them with the possibility that once they make a friend of their fear in that way and know they are choosing to experience themselves in that way, then when they step into that energy you are co-creating, they will not experience fear but the power of their own creative sense. All right.
Asker
That is the goal in my hall of mirrors—coming to that realization. I’d like to have perhaps some more specific information about the nature of some of the energies as they might be manifesting themselves. The nature of them—whether they relate specifically to the individuals who experience them.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Of course, of course they do.
Asker
Well, that’s how you get specific to the one that actually materialized in the form of a woman coming to the end. This was in December of last year.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar

You have created the type of atmosphere that is not unlike what we have created on our planet that allows other individuals to project their consciousness and wrap themselves in a projection of our bodily forms in order to experience our reality.

You have created a type of atmosphere that allows individuals who visit you to project portions of their own consciousness into the type of materiality or spirit forms that need to be reflected to them to let them see those portions of themselves in no uncertain terms.

Asker
Which is why I don’t feel the same.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Correct.
Asker
Um, one moment.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
In a sense, let us say it is a—to use your terminology—more specifically controlled and purposely applied and more solidified manifestation of what you normally refer to in a more uncontrolled manifestation as a poltergeist phenomena. 99.9% of which comes from the people involved in the situation themselves that have in a sense the notion of excess energy they don’t know what to do with, are afraid to face.
Asker
In the same situation, the first person experienced a lot of agitation which is obvious, and the woman who was manifested—I described the situation to my neighbors and they said, “Oh, you met Nina.” It turned out that someone who lived in the apartment—
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
And we are not saying that it does not have a total consciousness as—but that is the purpose of the energy and the consciousness. It is a way station that has the atmosphere that will attract those who can utilize it to look at those fragments and facets of themselves in that way. Whether they choose to generalize it in the form of the consciousness as it has always represented itself on its own terms is up to them. Depends on what they are willing to face. Recognize that no matter what the form is, what it brings is a reflection.
Asker
I’m really curious about—merely—between—there’s some synchronicity between one person’s experience and the next.
Asker
Bashar
Bashar
Yes, of course.
Asker
Who felt that—hadn’t been told who this person was by the neighbors. The next person who showed up panting and white-faced, my daughter said someone had been murdered out here at the same time that the neighbors had explained that someone had been murdered in that area. And I’m wondering if there is indeed a specific connection between that manifestation of the energy as different people who had not discussed the situation during—
Asker
Bashar
Bashar

That particular consciousness is in and of itself expressing a form of entrapment. It is not moving on. And anyone who partakes of that energy is going to meet the portion of themselves that feels entrapped. It is the expression that if you have in that sense refused to face a portion of yourself in that way, you have buried it, you have killed it, you have murdered it. It is in between being able to function and going on.

Understand in that way the original purpose for what you now call an exorcist to be was in a sense a spirit psychologist to allow them to know they did not have to remain within the attachment they had formed within physical life and could move on.

Therefore, that consciousness and all who find themselves attracted to it are choosing to experience those portions of themselves in a way that will allow themselves in a sense to become lost in a maze, in a hall of mirrors. All of these reflections will always show them how they fear they have trapped themselves so they can deal with that idea. It is in a sense shock treatment.

Yes, but that is the way some of you have chosen to do it. And there are spirits who are willing to help simply because of what they have chosen their situation to be. That spirit on the level you are perceiving it may not be any more aware of what it is doing than you are. But another portion of it is and knows that that portion of itself that is locked into that reality and interacting with you is serving the purpose.

So the dissolution of that type of energy as it is being experienced in common right now is our choice as well. Understand you will be providing a service.

For when all those individuals gather together and blend within themselves the love of those forces they now fear, they and you will generate the type of atmosphere that will allow that spirit to be on its way. For you will allow it to wake up as if it is allowing you to wake up. You follow me? Recognize that many individuals upon your planet choose to be scared into the presence.

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