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Co-Creation and Interaction
Many psychological endeavors are partaking in your society upon your planet at this time by many individuals. A new understanding of the idea of your approach to the other individuals in your society who wish the idea of aid and assistance.
Recognize in this way that as you co-create an interaction with us, there are many ideas that you have suggested to me that you notice about the idea of the methodologies of our interaction that is co-created between us. In this way, recognize simply that many times you have been willing in this way to create for yourselves so-called solutions to your own so-called problems by creating an interaction with us. Recognize we are not doing anything for you; you are doing it for yourself, but you are allowing us to assist you by being a reflection of what you already know. In this way, by allowing you to know you contain all the answers that you need for any question that you might create. In fact, the idea that, as we have said, that you can create a question at all is indicative of the fact that you have the answer within you; otherwise the concept would never appear in your consciousness.
Now simply recognize that the idea for why it seems many times that these interactions between yourselves and ourselves will allow you, in your own terms, to open up in areas where you may have felt you have not been willing to open up, is simply because of one basic fact. Understand that when you describe to me the ideas that you have created in your lives, the situations that many of you choose to label as a so-called problem — which to us is only a situation that you are not willing to allow to change its shape — you find in this way that we do in fact believe that you are in this way creating a scenario that is in every way, shape, or form real to you, and it is real because you created it to be real.
But understand this idea, as we have said before, in this way our concept, our approach to you is in a sense alien, and yours to us. In this way, by your definition, we are able to view the situations you have created for yourselves, so to speak, from a seemingly exterior point of view — not better, just different. Understand in this way, therefore, that while we will interact with you and many of the ideas you have created for your reality to be real, the experiences that you have chosen to experience which seem to be a reality that you cannot change, many times in this way simply recognize that the foundational difference between individuals in your society when they hear of other individuals telling of them the idea of their problem, so to speak, and even those individuals who are willing to assist individuals with their problems, so to speak — many times you will find that there is still a basic belief that those problems represent a fundamentally real reality and are not simply the product of what the individual believes to be real.
Therefore, understand many times that one of the ideas that you are feeling that is a difference from us is that when you tell us your problems, when you define and describe your situations that you wish to change, we do believe that for you they are in a sense real, but in a fundamental overall sense, we do not believe you. Understand that our basic, our basic perception of you and every being in creation is that you are fundamentally positive. Do you follow me? Positive. Do you follow me? That is our perception of you, as you say, from the get-go. Therefore, recognize that you can sit, if you choose, all day and all night long and describe all the different problems you have chosen to create; fundamentally I will not believe you, for I understand that you have only chosen to create the seeming problems to serve yourself. And if you are willing to know that anything you have chosen to create serves you in a positive way, then you will not believe you either, except where you are willing to recognize the idea as it serves you in a positive way, connected to your basic foundational creative ability. Your basic foundational existence is in, or as, the idea of love, as the idea of enlightenment, as the idea of creatorhood.
Therefore, in this way, what you are sensing from us in terms of our willingness to interact with you is that simply we do not carry within our belief structure that you are, so to speak, basically bad. You follow me? Yes. Yes. To us you are, like anything else, basically a creator. And in this way, to our perception and our point of view, no matter what you have chosen to create, you can always create something else. This is our basic approach with you. You follow me? Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Love as the Clay of Creation
Audience Member: Last night I had an enlightened thought very similar to the lines you were just describing, and I thought I’d share that and then I have a question. All right. The analogy was that love is the clay from which everything is created, and we create all the scenarios that we see out of that clay, and we can perceive in any way we want, but it’s still love.
Response: Yes. Every act is an act of love, correct, in the ultimate sense, so to speak.
Audience Member: And that was exciting. It sort of drove home the idea, and I was enlightened. But the question I had was: when we perceive love or hate or anger from another individual, I understand that it’s our own perception of love, of whatever the emotion or feeling is, but does it have to be necessarily given off by the other individual? In other words, do they have to be loving us for us to perceive love? And if we are perceiving love and they are not loving us, is that an — you see what I’m driving at? It’s just getting more confusing.
Response: In this way, if you know you are love, you can always perceive love. You follow me? Yeah. You can always understand that if another individual chooses to express themselves in what you call negative ways, you can still love the being that they are. It is the love you are willing to share with them that can allow them to choose a positive way to manifest the idea of their own love rather than a negative way. So in fact, every act is an act of love. Yes. Even if it is the creation out of that love of a situation that you do not prefer, so that you can give yourself the opportunity to choose what you do prefer. Correct. You follow me? Yes. Every negative act is an opportunity to decide whether or not you really do wish to experience and live in that negative way. Mm-hmm.
Audience Member: I guess my question is: are we perceiving — without other individuals, would we perceive other individuals and their love, hate, whatever, their emotions?
Response: It is up to you. Mm-hmm. Understand you are the creator. You are your own universe. You are creating your version of every other individual that you experience anyway. Therefore, simply by defining that that is the type of universe you want to experientially partake within, that choice, that tuning to that vibration, is what allows you to experience this fragment of your consciousness in this universe in which it seems there are many individuals. Yes. Thank you. Yes.
Silicon and Fiber Optics for Telepathic Purposes
Audience Member: Yeah, I have two questions. All right. One is: can you mix silicon with fiber optic just for telepathic purposes, and what else could be mixed with it for that use? Fiber optic — fiber optic dust. Well, that’s what — that’s what, um — no, that’s not the right one. Um, that’s what Chris was saying. Can you mix with — um, he said what can you mix with — death? All right.
Response: Now, the idea that we have defined to that individual of the use of the material you call the optic fiber in this way will be of quite a different nature than grinding them up into dust. They are wound and wrapped many hundreds of times, many thousands of times in full-length formation. Understand in this way that the energy, at least from our perception, that will be channeled by grinding them to dust will be just as dispersed and not focused.
Audience Member: Well then, is there some way in which silicon can be utilized?
Response: There is an opportunity for a type of interlayering, in a sense, with the fibers — fiber sheath, silica sheath, fiber sheath, silica sheath — in this way that can give rise to one particular effect that may be of interest to that individual with regard to the transference of energy to different levels of potentiality.
Audience Member: Have — oh. Okay. He was wondering what type of — I guess he wanted to make some enhancement, and he wanted to know if there was any adhesive that would, um, get in the way of reducing the receptivity, or an adhesive that would enhance them.
Response: There are various forms of adhesive in this way upon your planet that are, as you say, electrically conductive. But in this sense, the idea of embedding the so-called dust in that adhesive may not create the effect that he desires. More, the idea of the wrappings will be what creates the effect that he desires. Nice.
Subsonic Sound and Body Vibration
Audience Member: And my question is: I’m interested in taking tone and using it in a way that, typed into earphones, it would have an immediate effect on the body by having all their muscles vibrating.
Response: All right. Um, is that so that subsonic sound would be the — there is one vibration in this way that in a sense you may, so to speak, play with the idea of your 7 and 1/2 cycle per second Earth vibration. This will set up a resonance, as you say, sympathetic vibration, harmonic resonance frequency within your material form, which also partakes of its existence at that 7 and 1/2 cycle per second wave frequency that your Earth gives off. Thus you will then be able to create some sort of vibratory harmonic frequency within the material body as well. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. You’re welcome. Thank you.
Nothing Is Good or Bad / Positive and Negative Manifestation
Audience Member: Okay. Um, I have this coincidence here between what Kirk was talking about. Oh, very good. Um, okay. First of all, I just want to preface this by, um, just clarifying some things that I’ve heard from you and just kind of going over that. Okay. The ideas that I’ve practically been going here are that nothing is really good or bad or right or wrong, either within ourselves or what we see in our outer world. It’s just the way we’re perceiving it. In a sense, there is positive manifestation, there is negative manifestation, but in this way, if you can understand that everything serves the purpose — even as we have just said, that you may wish to create negative manifestation to know you do not prefer it — then you can understand that even the creation of the negative manifestation resulted in a positive choice. Therefore, it is not so much that everything is good or bad, simply that there is positive and negative manifestation. In this way, it is all equal. Follow me?
Response: All right.
Dealing with Negative Energy from Others
Audience Member: So going along kind of with what Kirk was saying, the idea of when you’re getting negative, um, input or, um, energy from another, um, human being towards yourself, okay, I understand that that’s reflecting something in yourself. I understand that. All right. What about the idea of them experiencing that negative energy towards you? What is their end of that?
Response: We simply understand that the same result can be for both of you. In this way, the idea that you are in, let us say, a state or an attitude wherein you are certain enough within your own convictions to be the being that you are, that you are willing to reflect back to them that no matter how negative they get towards you, you will always reflect a positive attitude towards them, so that they can understand in this way that they also have the opportunity to begin to question the idea of what it is that allows you to feel so secure within yourself that they lack within themselves that allows them to choose to negatively accost someone else. Be — follow me? Yes.
Audience Member: Um, what about — oh gosh, left my mind. Um, okay. If somebody’s having negative, um — okay, if somebody’s having negative energy towards you and you’re looking at it like what you said, like they’re choosing to give up their security within themselves, and that you can also choose to keep security within yourself, what about the idea of whether or not what they’re saying and what they feel towards you may be valid in your own mind also?
Response: Then you are judging yourself in that way. And you can also know that if that is a reflection that you find in your terms to be valid for yourself, then it simply could be an opportunity for you to recognize, through their reflection to you, that perhaps you have not been functioning within the idea of your own integrity. Okay.
Audience Member: And when a person doesn’t function within the idea of their own integrity and it’s pointed out with, quote, kind of negative feelings, we have the option to choose not to think less of ourselves, but that’s still a tendency in this, you know, society. Wondering if you could give some input as to how to choose not to do that.
Response: Just because it might be so in your eyes with what this person is feeling towards you, simply the willingness to allow yourself to have the experience of choosing to have it another way. In other words, you change things by changing them. Period. Choose to adopt the idea that you do not have to judge yourself and act as if that is now the true feeling that you have of yourself, because you know that any feeling you could choose to have of yourself is equally valid to any other choice you could make. So if you find that you do wish to look at how an input is coming to you through a certain perspective, there is nothing to prevent you from choosing to feel it in that way, to choose which way you wish to accept that information, since all choices are equal. You follow me?
Audience Member: So you’re saying that if it comes to you negatively, that you can choose to look at it but just choose to look at it positively rather than negatively?
Response: You may say, “All right, this individual in their terms is accosting me, but what is this approach doing to serve me? It may be allowing me to see, just an example, that I have not been functioning for my integrity. Now I know that I do wish to function for my integrity, so thank you for allowing me, individual, to reflect to myself that now I have the ability to positively see how I can prefer to act in a way that I really want to.” Follow me? Very much. Okay.
Judging Others / The Habitual Ritual
Audience Member: Just a little bit further. Why is it it seems that in this society that we are so locked to the idea that it’s our place to judge others?
Response: Simply again what we have called the habitual ritual — the idea that you have been doing it for so many thousands of your years. Part of the game you have been playing is to not know that you are doing it. So the idea of your habits stem from the habit of not knowing you are doing something habitually. Follow me? You are creating your own cycle. Right. Okay. What purpose does it seem to serve, to us, why we do it so much? In this way, the purpose of experiencing separation, the purpose of experiencing the idea that you are separate from the All That Is, in that way is simply that that is one way you can experience reality. And your ultimate desire as a consciousness is to experience everything that you can. So this has been one way. Simply the idea that you chose to experience this idea of separation brought with it, in a sense, many ideas that allowed you to completely forget that you made the choice to begin with, of your own free will.
Now you are changing your idea of yourself. You are not needing the tool of experiencing that separation, that judgment, any longer. And so you are now able to actually see that you are judging. You follow me? Otherwise, in your terms of past, the idea of judging another was not even questioned. It was simply the way things are. This is the way you should be. And in that way, once you are in a system, you never question the idea of whether you can or cannot be out of that system or habit. Now that you are even questioning that you can have another way of life, that ability to be able to transcend the idea of the judgmental system lets you know that you are no longer in it. You follow me? The ability to perceive a system means you already have to be outside of it. Do you follow me?
The Island Analogy — Perceiving Problems
Audience Member: No. Do you wish to share your island analogy, sir?
Audience Member 2: Oh, right. The idea being that when you’re on an island, uh, you think you’re, you know, on land, but you have to be — to see it as an island, you have to be away from it to see that it’s surrounded by water. So if you’re to realize that you’re in a problem or in — probably, sorry, not problem, in a situation, you have to be outside of it to realize that you’re in it. Correct?
Response: Therefore, recognize that if you can perceive you are in the problem, you are not having one anymore. So the idea is that your perception of the fact that there is, so to speak, a situation is not the beginning of a process to get out of it; it is the end. You’re out of it because you know you were in it.
Audience Member: What if you keep following that action even though you’re aware of it?
Response: So your choice. But it still means you’re not in it. It just — every time you understand the idea that you have a, so to speak, problem, you are not in it. You may now be in the idea that you have a problem that you cannot get out of, but that is another idea totally. Yes. Every idea is its own 100% universe. Got it? Simply that it is its own 100% universe and is not connected to any other idea except as you choose to make an association. So in other words, you are either doing A, you are either doing B. But if you find that there are elements of A and B in what you are doing, it is not that you are doing half of A and half of B; you are doing the totally new third idea, AB, which is not connected to A and not connected to B except as you choose to think that it is. But it is its own separate universe with its own separate rules, so to speak.
Pregnancy and Co-Creation (Philip)
Audience Member: Than — um, I have created for myself the idea that I would like to have a baby.
Response: Oh, right.
Audience Member: And this month I believe that I had conceived a child physically. I felt that way. And then I also had a very lovely dream where in the dream, myself and my husband and this idea of a Philip, which I interpreted to be, um, a soul of this child, we’re all kind of intertwined and moving in a circular motion and laughing and very happy. And I woke — pardon, lovely, yeah — and I woke up the next morning and I went, “Oh boy, we’ve made our agreement,” and I really felt — I think I sort of rearranged my brain waves and decided that I was pregnant with this Philip idea. And also I went to, um, an acupuncturist who took my pulse and said, “You know, you have a lot of signs of pregnancy, but I also feel some indecision.” All right. In your — and then it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant in this reality. However, I’d like to explore the idea with you that possibly I’m pregnant with this Philip idea in another reality.
Response: In a sense you can be. But also understand that being in connection with the energy of the so-called consciousness Philip in this way can mean that for the time you were intertwined with that energy, you were pregnant with it in this physical reality, in that way, for the purposes that needed to be served, just in that way. Right? You follow me? Yes. Now, at this time, our perception is that this can become a physiological pregnancy, but simply the way in which you experience the interaction for now serves to allow you to create yourself to be the being that you would need to be to be the one to have a physiologically pregnant agreement.
Audience Member: I agree with you, and I think what I learned about being that being is I learned about co-creation, and I learned about timing. I learned about the idea of timing and co-creation, which allowed me to sort of step back and take a deep breath and let things happen in a nicer, smoother, slower way.
Response: Then you can also understand in this way that with regard to Philip, you in this way are also allowing, through your agreement, interaction with the consciousness Philip. You are allowing, in that way, by your own agreement, you are allowing Philip to give birth to you as well, in the manner of the idea that you need to be that Philip has actually made the agreement with to be born unto physically. You follow me? Yes. Thank you. So there is a gestation period for both of you. You may now consider yourself to be in his womb as well. And in this way, perhaps the idea of your 9 months’ time may see within that time frame the idea of a physiological birth starting. Good. That is how we perceive the energy at this time. That is not chiseled in stone. Before — yes. Thank you. Thank you. Yes.
The AIDS Crisis
Audience Member: Um, are you familiar with the — well, I’m sure you are — the AIDS crisis?
Response: That’s — crisis — the AIDS situation. We have discussed this.
Audience Member: Okay. I’m — I’m new here. It’s my first time. All right. Meeting you. Um, now briefly —
Response: Yes. Briefly, yes. Understand that to us it is, on one level, fundamentally a symbol of the idea that it is a reaction arising from the preliminary premise that your society is not willing to blend within itself, within each being in the society, the idea of its own male and female energies. There are individuals, therefore, that have taken it upon themselves to be born in your society that will exemplify dichotomies or paradoxes regarding the expression of male-femaleness, femaleness, and all of these ideas, to have given your society an opportunity to give themselves a symbolic reflection of what they were not willing to contain within each and every being of themselves. But because several individuals also chose, even while they were expressing that symbol to the majority of your society, chose to accept the judgment of society upon them, then they, in creating that reaction for themselves, judged themselves and created for themselves what they were forced to create: the idea of a symbolic disease that would break down the barriers that filter different ideas. In other words, that is the idea behind the symbol of lack of immunity. You are open and vulnerable to everything. You follow me? Yes.
Now, to some degree, this idea is already in a higher consciousness sense beginning to reverse itself, for individuals in your society have now begun more and more to integrate the male-femaleness within each and every being, to accept both sides of themselves, and to remove the need for those individuals experiencing that symbol to have to experience it, to have to reflect it to the society, because the society is now willing to accept certain portions of themselves that they were not willing to accept before, which created the need for such, quote-unquote, drastic measures. You follow me? Got it. Yes. Does that answer your question? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. Sure.
Diabetes and Disease
Audience Member: On the health issue, could you enlighten me about diabetes and its complications?
Response: All right. Now, there may be, again, though it is being expressed as what you perceive to be a single symbol, many different reasons behind that idea. In this way, you may find that the idea of energy is a concern, so to speak. In other words, there are aspects, let us say fundamentally, of many beings expressing what you call the disease diabetes with the idea that they do not lack — or in this way, create the idea of a lack — either one can cause this idea — the connection to their own fundamental self-empowerment to bring forth into their physical reality that which they desire to express of their lives. They are in a sense feeling that they are running without an engine, that they must plug into an alternate energy source to allow themselves to feel connected to their own fundamental creatorhood, creativity. They feel they have in this way created a deprivation of their obvious and immediate connection through the fundamental natural creatorhood ability that they were born with. In this way, now, many of these diseases upon your planet are also serving as an additional idea for your medical personnel to allow them to understand why many of these symbols have been created. And there are many opportunities for individuals in this way to allow other individuals to come to terms within themselves about certain things they have not been willing to face, either in this life or in other lives. Many of the so-called diseases which carry on from generation to generation may be an exemplification also of lack of willingness of forming certain connections to the natural self in many different lives. In this way, so in that sense there are many, so to speak, karmic diseases, even though these are all self-imposed and do not have to persist. You follow me?
Audience Member: Is there something more specific you wish to delve into with regard to this idea? I’m just wondering whether we will see, um, a cure or a way for this disease, the complications of —
Response: To see — our perception of your civilization is that every single idea you now call a disease in your society will not exist within the idea of 50 of your years, for you will have made the transformation that allows you to recognize you no longer need those tools to show yourself that you simply need to be willing to make the connections to all that you are. The transformation from your old to new age awareness, from third to fourth density reality, will be the recognition, the cognition, in the presence of the willingness to know that you are love and light, and in this way you are the creators of the reality that you experience.
Audience Member: So then one can really almost believe that they don’t have to have these complications or the diabetes, what — since this is the transformational life?
Response: This life carries with it, by definition, the opportunity to realize that in this life, no, you do not need to experience those ideas if you are willing to make the connections that allows it to be able to be changed. That is why you are in this transformational life. In a very real sense, you do not even, in your terms, have to physically die according to your normal lifespan in this life. This is the transformational life, and by definition, because of what it is, it allows you to recognize that everything you have been experiencing, what you think is a part of a reality that controls you, is actually under your own control and changeable. That is one of the definitions of why this is a transformational life — to recognize that everything you have been experiencing is only the product of what you believe you should be experiencing, only tools to reflect to you what you believe your reality to be, and that you can change those tools, you can change those beliefs, and as a result you can completely, absolutely, totally, without shadow of a doubt, change the physiological life to reflect what you now believe it to be. You follow me?
The Purse / Abundance
Audience Member: You — um, last week I created a situation for myself and I’d like to describe it to you, see if I’m really understanding a lot of things. All right. Okay. Um, I put my purse down and walked away and left it, you know, and I didn’t know I was doing it, but I did it. All right. I figure — I’ve had all week, I’ve been trying to figure out why I created that situation for myself.
Response: Are you exploring the idea of abundance?
Audience Member: Uh, well, I’ve been exploring the idea that someone else needed the money that was in it. My higher self wanted to help them.
Response: Now, could be for that reason on the surface. But understand that those things are also created out of an understanding that you are completely as abundant as you need to be to begin with, and so attachments to certain things do not need to be maintained as a focus to allow you to experience the flow of other things coming in, which will increase your sense of abundance. When you allow there to be, let us say, a hole in your reality with regard to what you have previously considered the idea of abundance to be, then something else can fill that hole, which will create a flow. Abundance is not a static experience; it is a flow. You follow me? Yes.
Audience Member: So even though I think that the money and the identification and the important papers that were in that — even though I think I need those, I don’t really — they’re not a —
Response: Question, I think. Understand again, if you are simply willing to be a total idea, if those tools are necessary for you to continue to be that idea, they will be there. If they are not there, you do not need them. You will find also that there is an opportunity for certain of those things, in your terms, to come back to you.
Audience Member: I’ve been trying to believe all week that there’s no — to try — I’ve been having a feeling all week that it’s all going to come back.
Response: All right. Then use the opportunity as it exists right now to explore all the different ideas that this experience is showing you exist within yourself that you did not know existed there. You follow me? Yes. Have a good time. Thank you. You are fundamentally, fundamentally cared for by All That Is. You do not need anything. You have everything. You follow me? This is an opportunity for you to experience your trust.
Audience Member: Knew it. I knew it.
Response: That is why you did it. As I said, I am prone to not believe that you do things for any other reason other than the fact that you know what you’re doing. Thank you.
Physical Organism / Soul’s Relationship with the Universe
Audience Member: Guys, Bashar, I’d like to — uh, I’ve been in imagination about your physical organism this week, and I’d like to, um, if — if I’m an organism, does that mean that you are a glandular system or something?
Response: All right. If you wish to make that definition, it is up to you. Well, you — there’s only a label.
Audience Member: Do you have a heart?
Response: Yes.
Audience Member: How does the — and how does the glandular system, if you are based on glands, how does your system work?
Response: Now, understand in this way that that is not what I have said. Okay. Recognize that in this way, in the — I’d speak 300 years ahead of you is not all that great a period of time. You follow me? Yes.
Audience Member: But that doesn’t mean that — I mean, right now in different parts of the solar system or the universe, there are more advanced civilizations organically too, so time period really has nothing to do with it.
Response: Although you are asking a question in a linear time frame. Okay. You say, “Are you still functioning?” That is a time question. Therefore we give you a time answer. Got it.
Audience Member: Um, do you have blood that circulates?
Response: So it’s the same phase.
Audience Member: Okay. Do you breathe? Do you breathe oxygen?
Response: Nice.
Audience Member: Okay. Now what I’m wondering is, because we’re in physical bodies, we seem to have some sort of reciprocal relationship, interrelationship with the universe. By breathing, that’s one way that we have intercourse with the universe. What I’m wondering is, do our souls have an intercourse with — and what sort of relationship is that?
Response: Now, understand that this will vary according to your definition of what the idea of sex is in this way. But you can also understand that in a very real sense, all that you consider the physical universe to be is in a very real way, on one level, made out of your soul self. You follow me?
Audience Member: What about — assist — you — um, I — there’s still part of me that wants to know what the give and take is. Give and take, right? Your terminology does not translate. This — it seems like there is some — okay, even though we are part of everything that is, there is still some separate in that unity that makes our souls individual in their unification with everything that is. And what I’m wondering is, what is that continual osmosis, um, that reciprocal communion that is occurring? Is there — is it — can you fill me in a little bit?
Response: Again, allow me to say your concept is not translating fully into our concepts. But allow me to say this: everything, in your terms, as a physical universe, is the product of a difference in the vibration of the fundamental homogeneous energy patterns that created — you follow me? Even on the idea of what you call the soul level, even the higher, higher consciousness can choose to create a differentiation in soul structure by simply altering the signature vibration of what you perceive to be a collection of many aspects or fragments of yourself into one homogeneous idea. Do you follow me? Yes. Does that answer your question? Yes. Help. Thank you. Thank you.
The Mormon Religion and Channeling
Audience Member: One moment. Yes. Uh, for most of my life I’ve had an association with what’s called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Mormons. Are you familiar with them?
Response: To some degree.
Audience Member: Okay. And, uh, I’m in a bit of confusion in that I really don’t understand what’s going on with them, what their source is, whether they do have a sense of channeling, a type of channeling, where it comes from. Uh, they seem to be, to a point, in agreement with, uh, the New Age, and after that point in a very heavy, strong disagreement with it. All right. Can you, uh, you know, my questions as well as I do.
Response: Simply in this way, understand that one of the reasons for what seems to be the dichotomy is in the definition of the idea you call religion upon your planet to begin with, which is a type of structure that by definition allows individuals, let us say, more than actually living as an idea, to follow an idea. And so in this way, where the experiences, the things that seem to be the same, they are experiencing in a direct living manner the idea of their own creatorhood. Where there seems to be the discrepancies, they are experiencing more in a removed manner the idea that they are not creating that reality for themselves. Is that clearing it to some degree?
Audience Member: A bit.
Response: All right. Now, simply recognize that with every idea on your planet that you call a so-called religion, in this way every single one, to some degree, has its basis, its origin, to some degree in the idea of channeling, whether it is communication with what may turn out to be other consciousness or simply aspects of the individual who created this idea’s own higher consciousness. The basic, primal, fundamental recognition of the basic principles behind all religions upon your planet are from the same overall source. And so in that way, on that level, fundamentally all so-called religions agree. When you surround the fundamentals with simply, let us say, rituals that are reflective of each and every individual’s particular way that they wish to go about relating to the fundamentals, that is where the discrepancies come in. You follow me? Yeah.
For in this way, it is simply that because of the way your society is as a whole, because of the separation you have made from the All That Is, that you are — it has become a habit in the overall society in which you live to think that discrepancy means that there is not being truth presented, when in fact there is. The idea that your society has chosen to believe in is that there can only be one way to recognize the fundamental truth of existence, and that, by obvious definition, is not the case. For as we have said, if there is only one way, there would only be one person. So recognize that each and every individual is actually their own way of forming a relationship to creation. Now, there may be groups of individuals in a sense that seem to be sharing similar ideas, but even for those individuals there are differences in what they think to be the similarities between them, in this way. And it is simply because of the fact that every individual is a different individual. The fact that your reality has been created in that way, who expresses itself through individuality, that is what is creating the dichotomy. It is not so much that that is creating the dichotomy, but it is the belief — the belief that all individuals must only function in one way — that is creating the dichotomy.
So because this is the transformational era where you are beginning to recognize that it is integration that is happening — in other words, that the unity, any unity that you will experience on your planet, is going to be the product of granting validity to the infinite diversity within your civilization — that is what is causing the dichotomy in many of the religious organizations upon your planet, because they do not understand that they can find the unity they seek by granting equality to all of the differences in your society. You follow me? Yes. Does that clarify the idea to some degree for you? Yes, it helps. It helps a bit.
Audience Member: Uh, they, as you say, they do seem to be going more in the direction of separation, uh, from the others, from the rest of the world, then rather towards embracing the idea of unity and all-encompassing. This — what will happen to them? Will that change, or —
Response: It can. Everyone has their own way of recognizing that they are all winding up at the same place.
Audience Member: They don’t appear to believe so.
Response: All right. Again, ultimately everyone doesn’t really come from anywhere and is not really going to any place, because everything is right here and right now. So in an ultimate sense, it does not matter how they choose to get there. You follow me? Yes. So in this way, the way they have chosen to learn what they are learning is their way of learning, and for them it has validity. Should any individuals choose to change their minds, those individuals will not partake of that ritual any longer. True. That is all there is to it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Male/Female Energy Integration
Audience Member: One moment. Yes. Yes. I wanted to know, could you speak to us about male-female and how we can best integrate them?
Response: All right. To some, you may simply begin, so to speak, by recognizing that they are already integrated. You follow me? There is nothing that you have to do to integrate them other than simply allowing yourself to know that they are already integrated by definition. Therefore, allow me to ask you this: do you have what you call an imagination?
Audience Member: Oh, yeah.
Response: All right. Can you right now, in this moment, allow yourself, in whatever way, shape, or form your imagination is comfortable with, to form, let us say, a feeling or an image of the idea of this so-called male energy and female energy that you contain within yourself as a being? Can you form this idea right as one being, in any way, shape, or form that your imagination finds comfortable? For now, you may allow them to, in a sense, let us say, be side by side if you wish, or as one being. What is more comfortable for you?
Audience Member: One being.
Response: All right. Then you can now describe to me with your imagination: what are the qualities of this singular being?
Audience Member: Seems to be all-knowing, all — together, all joined, all —
Response: All right. Then that is all there is to it. Recognize in your formation of that creation right now, you have allowed yourself to know: no, they are integrated. They are married within. You follow me?
Audience Member: The reason why I ask the question is because there’s a lot of study now about the differences between male and femaleness with the idea of integration. So you’re saying actually if you imagine the integration to be so, then it has already happened?
Response: Yes. And you can allow yourself, if you trust that it has already happened, to see it experientially in your physical reality, to see the results of that. Now, understand that what you have said has validity in terms of the experimentation, so to speak, going on. But recognize that it is not only the differences but also the similarities that are being looked at. So in this way, you can simply note that both ideas, as they manifest the polarity of your soul consciousness into physical reality, both ideas, both polarities serve different purposes, and they simply work in tandem — one being more appropriate for a particular type of situation and another being more appropriate for another aspect of another situation. The idea of maleness and femaleness in that form of energy is simply a definition in your physical polarity terms of simply one type of an approach to a certain situation you have created and another type of an approach — the idea more of an outward approach or an inward approach. You follow me? Yes. That is all there is to it. The soul in itself, though it does contain both energies, does not experience them as maleness-femaleness. You follow me? Yes. It is in the soul one harmonic idea. Thank you. Thank you.
Psychology Intention / Experiential Knowing
Audience Member: Yes. Yeah. I’ve been, um, playing with some of the ideas that we talked about in the interview about the psychology intention, and I’ve had some wonderful opportunities to, uh, practice it with some of my clients. To be — to be it, right?
Response: Thank you.
Audience Member: And what I’m hoping you can help me — what, um — no, excuse me. Um, hoping what — I am the idea. Okay. What I’ve been sensing is that this is an experiential knowing, and when I try and use my analytical training, I can’t really get close to the understanding of what you’re describing as psychology intention. All right. However, I really knew what it was about, and I was experiencing it with clients — becoming the idea, uh, looking at the probabilities and the event, and knowing that the difference was with no expectation attached to these events. And what we have said this evening of your time, believing in their basic abilities — can you clarify that?
Response: Simply what we said at the beginning of this discussion: not believing that they are basically unable. You follow me? Correct. Unable. You follow me? Correct. Yeah.
Audience Member: Um, is it true that this is an experiential knowing? ‘Cause I can’t use my intellect to come to —
Response: You may use your reasoning. However, you may find in this way that the reasoning you will create will be an aftermath to your experiential knowingness. Yes. Simply allowing you to go through the paces in physiological terms so that you can allow it to be a physiological tool that can be seen by other individuals not oriented toward the idea of the experiential knowingness, but the reasoning. And any analysis that you will apply to this idea in your terms will come after the experiential knowingness that creates the interaction. You follow me? Yes. ‘Cause that seems to be the only way that I can come close to knowing what the difference is between this kind of science and the science that we’ve had previous.
Response: It is a beginning in your terms. Uh-huh. You will, as you create yourself to continue to be this idea, as you change the idea of yourself within this notion, you will discover more ways to express it. You follow me? Yeah. And great, that would be helpful. Thank you. You’re welcome.
The Present and Memory
Audience Member: You said we are not the result of the past. The present is not the result of the past unless you choose to believe that that is so. Is it because that exists — correct — because the only experiential existence you ever perceive is the present?
Response: Correct.
Audience Member: Why do I remember the past?
Response: You are creating the memory in the present.
Audience Member: And meaning it comes back?
Response: Correct. If you make it meaningful, it comes back.
Predictions and the Future
Audience Member: In our words, there is no future in a sense. Yes. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Understand — understand, yes, there is only seeming, in the sense that as we have said, there really is, quote-unquote, no such thing as predicting the future. What is being sensed by anyone — by Spirit, by higher consciousness, by your own consciousness — is the situational energy that exists in the present that has the most energy behind it, that is the most likely to manifest into physical reality. But that is a present sensing. If the momentum of that energy does not waver, does not decrease, does not divert, then it will, in your terms, come to pass. If it does change, it will not come to pass. Any prediction, whether it is made by so-called Spirit or not, is always only a sensing of the energy that exists at the time the prediction is made that has the most energy behind it, that has the highest degree of probability of maintaining that level of energy. That is why you will find that so-called predictions of mass events are, in your terms, more likely to come about than individual predictions, unless the individual prediction has a great deal of conviction behind the energy that is being predicted in terms of what the individual that is being predicted about has created for themselves.
Now, understand that many times predictions in and of themselves are there for the purpose of having the individual about whom the prediction is being made change their mind, simply because now they are aware of the prediction. You remember the island analogy? If you are aware of the situation, you are then out of it. So if somebody gives you a so-called prediction, it might be an opportunity for you to recognize that you can now consciously make a choice between maintaining the same level of energy that the prediction sensed and allowing that to come to pass, or changing the energy if you do not prefer what the prediction has predicted. But it is always only in the present that those things occur. Thank you.
Victimhood
Audience Member: Yes, all right. Now again, what is your relative idea of success? For in this way again, as we have suggested, if you are peace and if you go as peace, then the only results will be those that connect to the idea of yourself as peace. In other words, it is not so much that it is successful, but it will always be reflective of what you are. Um, one question is — thank you. I have such trouble with the victim —
Response: Now, that is in itself its own belief, you know that. Stop right there for one moment. The phrase “I have trouble with victimhood” is one of the belief structures that goes into reinforcing your experiencing of victimhood. It is not something that is a law of nature that you have this trouble. It is your choice to believe you have trouble with victimhood, and that choice to believe you have trouble reinforces the experience of victimhood itself. It is its own vicious cycle. The fact that you even wish to maintain the idea that you have trouble with victimhood may be the only thing giving you the experience of victimhood.
Audience Member: I have — but I — understand — discuss — I cannot believe that 11 people — oh, oh, oh.
The Holocaust and Fear
Response: One moment. There is simply some misunderstanding on your part of the reasons. In this way, from what we have said, recognize that what we are saying is not that all these people woke up and said, “Oh yes, cheerfully, consciously, I will now go out and be killed by these other people. I think this is something I want to do.” No, no, no, no. Understand that what we are saying is that your physical reality is the product of what you believe it will be. And in this sense, recognize that what activates these beliefs and what can even cause many of these beliefs is your creation of your emotionality. Fear is one of the strongest emotions that your society has chosen to give substance to on your planet. So understand that if you have an overriding fear that something will happen, it is the same thing as subconsciously saying you believe this will occur. So when we say those individuals chose that reality, we are saying they chose to believe that such a reality was the most likely reality that could happen because they were fearful that that was the most likely reality, and so that was the reality they experienced. It was their fear that created the experience for them in that way, not a conscious willingness to volunteer. You follow me? That is how they made the choice to experience that reality — by believing in their fear more than their ability to simply know that that experience did not have to happen for them.
And also, also recognize that intermixed within this, and valid because your society has an overall belief in the idea of karmic reincarnation, recognize that also many of those individuals as a society were also bringing forth from other lives karmic fears of retribution for atrocities they had created by themselves as a group, many times. For — recognize in this way that many of those individuals — not to say that they deserved it, not to say it had to happen — but many of those individuals unconsciously created that balance for themselves in that way. They did not have to, but many of them did because of past life situations in which they as a society took the lives of many nations. Follow me? It is now that idea and that experience that they have now allowed themselves to go through. They simply chose unconsciously to allow themselves to go through it in that way by actually physically experiencing the same type of situation that they had perpetrated on other individuals, that allows them now to form a balance wherein that situation never has to occur in your society again.
Now, understand that many individuals who, in your terms, so to speak, remember this Holocaust are actually choosing to continue to create the fear that can actually make it plausible to experience that reality again. And it is only that fear that makes it plausible. If you understand that the cycle has been completed — completed in that way — and you take back your empowerment, knowing that there is never any need anymore to create the type of fear that would create that type of reality ever again, because you have already experienced all you need to with regard to that type of fear and what it can create in your society, then you will never experience that reality again. So let it be in the past. Let it be in the past that does not control the present. Thank you very much.
UFOs and Malibu
Audience Member: You all take a short break, right? Say thank you. Thank you. Uh, curious — the various channelings have come mostly from the spirit world, and, uh, I’m wondering how you, from a civilization in body 300 years in advance of ours, can tell us that the wealth of information and — wanted to know is that information, uh, part of all of it?
Response: Of course. My civilization simply realizes that, and that is why — one moment. I did not guarantee anything. All right. Simply in this way, what was said is this: that date in your society represents a time when there are, let us say, more doorways open in your consciousness, more willingness to perceive other dimensionalities, other densities of experience, in this way. And so the craft in attendance that are always round and about your planet may be perceived if you are giving yourself more of an opportunity to do so. Now, the area that has been described simply is one of the energy vortices wherein many craft find that they will enter your dimensionality because it is in and of itself one of the energy doorways that makes this possible. Therefore, in that area we have said, of your Malibu, at the time we have said, of your March 15th, we simply see a high degree of probability just to enable you the opportunity, if you are willing to be sensitive to it in that way, but not need to be, wherein you may have that experience.
Audience Member: Might I add, the party that’s planned is not a UFO party; it’s a celebration of the idea.
Response: Correct. That way, that attitude may actually enable you more of an opportunity to see something than going to see them to begin with. Thank you.
Spirit World After Death
Audience Member: Spirit world — when we all pass over, is it all the same spiritual — we all end up in the same place, so to speak?
Response: Now, even in what you call the spirit world, there is some degree of differentiation. It is all the same place, yet but in this way you can still create the seeming — that is not — to some degree, it will depend upon, in a sense, what beliefs you take with you, so to speak, what scenario you choose to work out with yourself in this way, how quickly you realize it is all one. All of these things can serve a purpose for the soul that you still may represent to be the individualized portion of the oversoul that has just recently left the physical body. But it is just like this physical reality — is in essence the same place as anything is, for there is only really here and now. In an ultimate sense, all differentiations are, in a sense, illusionary. But you can create that illusion even on some of what you may call the lower levels of spirit world. Follow me?
Audience Member: The spirit of all of the souls from every planetary group throughout the universe end up in this one?
Response: No. There is no space to it. You are outside the idea of physical reality. All that is is experience, and what illusionary space you wish to create in order to have the experience. Understand, it is the same thing. You are — to in here is physical space crowded — it is the same place as non-physical space. In an ultimate sense, it all takes place right here. You simply have different phases of experience that allows you to experience All That Is face to face with each other, so that everything can exist in between, seemingly in between everyone else’s moments. You follow me?
Suicide
Audience Member: I wanted to ask you about suicide. Oh, right. Um, contemplating — pardon me. How am I contemplating — are you? Am I contemplating it? No, I have — I have.
Response: All right. Not uncommon in your society.
Audience Member: No. And what I’m interested in, because someone very close to me, my mother, did commit suicide. I need — I feel I need to know what it is that would make a human being, someone from this society, want to leave this society feeling they have no choice.
Response: Of course. No other choice. No feeling of self-empowerment. Complete and total powerlessness. The creation of the belief that you are at the mercy of everything you experience outside of you and that you are not in control. It is the one last vestige that you give yourself to know you are in control, for it always comes down to you. Now, understand, however, that usually the idea of what you call physicalized suicide in this way usually does not fulfill the choices made by the soul in being physical. And usually you will find that a physical suicide, once it is out of the body, will remember what the idea was all about and reincarnate almost immediately.
Audience Member: I wondered about that. I also, uh, thought that perhaps in that feeling of powerlessness in the body, in the society at that time, there is a decision that this is not good, I need another place, another time in order to —
Response: That can be one of the decisions. But recognize in this way that again, the result, or let us say the reason for most suicide in this way, is usually not being willing to come to terms with your own self-empowerment, which in various ways was one of the ideas that the soul created a physical life for. So you will usually find that the soul, in reincarnating, will actually choose similar scenarios that caused the suicide to begin with, for in this way it is with the knowingness that there is another way to look at that situation that the being reincarnates in a more positive way. But it is also possible for that reincarnated being to live that out again to another suicide and come back again. And is possible? Yes.
Audience Member: Okay. Um, one other comment or question or thought in that: when someone, uh, if someone knows someone’s committing suicide, right, and they let them do it, um, I suppose that also comes from a choice?
Response: There’s no other choice. That is the choice that that person may — is true in that way. Yes. But in this way, you can also understand that the idea of your knowledge of such an event is your opportunity to share with that individual opportunities to look at their situation in another way. Now, you cannot ultimately prevent someone who really, really wishes to kill themselves from doing so, for they will find a way if they are really dead set upon it, in that sense. But the idea of your being aware of that situation does give you the opportunity to interact with them. Recognize that if they did not choose to find someone who was aware, they would not have attracted someone to be aware of their situation. So the fact that you might be aware also is a reflection that they chose to attract someone to them as, let us say, maybe one more opportunity to perhaps choose something else other than the suicide. So by all means interact with them in this way. Now, if you choose to not interact with them in that way, it is then up to you to determine what that action, interaction or lack of it, teaches you.
Audience Member: Is it the personality or the soul?
Response: The personality, more often than not.
Guilt
Audience Member: How does one deal with guilt?
Response: How about not experiencing it?
Audience Member: How does one go about not experiencing when it’s something — thank you.
Response: First of all, forgive yourself. For recognize that every experience in this way is a valid experience. You have done it all. You have been it all. You following? Yes. Now, the idea of guilt is simply judging the self to not be valid for the experience you created yourself to be. All right? You can recognize that perhaps the experience you created allowed you to know what it is like to function without integrity. But all right, then the experience of functioning without integrity has now taught you that perhaps you prefer to function with it. And so that experience has served you. So forgive yourself, for it has taught you something, and it has taught you that you can prefer a choice between not experiencing integrity and experiencing it. You follow me? Yes. Thank you. I do. Quite sure.
Cat and Insomnia / Natural Sleep Cycles
Audience Member: I have two questions. The first question I personally don’t feel I need a lot of expansion on. Um, my cat has been keeping me up at night by scratching at my door every 15, half an hour, whatever. And if I do the things that the veteran people recommended, like squirt her with water or chase her or whatever —
Response: That’s what — if you allowed the animal to reflect to you — uh-huh — a schedule that may reflect more accurately the new person you are becoming.
Audience Member: Well, after talking to you about the idea that I’ve experienced insomnia and what you said, I feel that I’ve made great strides to not experiencing that, and I feel like my cat’s new schedule is bringing that idea back in my life so that —
Response: Now you can use it for what it is. Understand again, the idea of insomnia never occurs if you allow yourself to recognize that when you are awake, you are supposed to be. It is only a judgment that you think you should be asleep that creates the so-called disease of insomnia. It is not a disease; it is a recognition of the schedule that is more natural for you.
Audience Member: Well then I don’t understand, because today from not getting sleep I lost a job because I wasn’t able to be there and perform it good.
Response: Why — it was an office job. With — so what? Understand this is the idea. You are simply giving yourself an opportunity to recognize, very boldly, very unconventionally, that the majority of your society is based upon a structure that does not grant validity to what is called your natural sleep cycle, wherein you are actually more highly active at 3:00 a.m. and low-key at 3:00 p.m., not the other way around. Why do you think so many cultures on your planet have what you call a siesta? Recognize in this way that has been your natural flow.
Audience Member: Well, every half an hour doesn’t seem natural. I mean, she keeps coming back like every half an hour.
Response: That is not the point. What — you simply will not get up and pay her attention. What you’re saying — so of course she is always going to remind you.
Audience Member: So that’s what I was going to ask you: what is she wanting? And that’s what you’re saying — she’s reflecting to you that you are creating a recognition that you can be very creative at a time you think you are judging that you should be asleep, and that much of what you actually want in life can be discovered in those hours, and that you can rearrange the idea that you need to have a normal job schedule, or you are now becoming un-normal. You are becoming natural.
Audience Member: So my kitty cat is telling me that I have the freedom to express myself in ways that are more natural and at times that are more natural?
Response: Yes. And that any so-called job that you require will be attracted to you that will fit your new schedule. You do not have to fit the schedule of the job.
Audience Member: Okay. So let’s say tonight, of my time, yes, that my cat decides to, you know, reflect to you, and I get up and I play with her, and I think, “Okay, well, she’s probably had enough and I probably had enough this time.” I go back to sleep. What if it happens again? Do I get — do you — what do you mean, “What if”?
Response: That is not an is-ness. Do what is. If the cat, so to speak, comes back, get up. Okay. In this way, again, why are you creating what-ifs? Have it all right. Simply do what is. The cat is there, play. The cat is not there, please. Okay.
Massage Work and Abnormality
Audience Member: Next question. Um, I just recently had an opportunity brought to me for more massage work.
Response: Great.
Audience Member: And I find that I would like this opportunity, but I’m having kind of, I don’t know, an uneasiness about it. It’s with people that are older people, shedding, and that, um, could be disabled in different ways. Yes. Well, I find — in fact, I find I’m also kind of ashamed of this, but I find that I’m uncomfortable with certain aspects that might be with their bodies, different deformities or abnormalities. And I don’t wish to choose to shut that off because I do wish to help people, but I —
Response: You can simply understand that your discomfort with the idea of your own abnormality, so to speak, is what is causing discomfort within you relative to the symbols you are creating and attracting into your life. The idea that you are attempting to refuse in this way to be abnormal. You follow me? Um, yes. Understand your physical reality is going to always contain every single symbol that is creatively possible to experience, reflecting all the different facets of the idea you are exploring. Now, one of the ideas you are exploring, as we have just discussed, is the idea of what is normal and what is not. So allow yourself to be natural, and you will not feel uneasy about what you are being shown to be, in your previous definition, an abnormality, which on another level is actually quite normal, simply because it is a normal expression of what they have chosen to be. It is a natural expression of what they have chosen to be. Allow your focus to shift to the idea of naturalness rather than normality.
Audience Member: See, I understand that idea. What I — what I would like to ask is, is there some other idea that you can give me while I process that, while I’m working with these people? Because it seems like that’s a very strong thing with me, and I may choose to let it take a while.
Response: If you say so. All right. One moment. How’s your imagination tonight?
Audience Member: It’s active as always.
Response: All right. Will you close your eyes for a moment? Okay. Now, what do you perceive with your eyes closed about all the individuals in the room with you?
Audience Member: I feel that it’s very loving people.
Response: All right. What else?
Audience Member: That they’re unique.
Response: Very good. Anything else?
Audience Member: That they are, um, also wishing to clarify things about themselves.
Response: All right. Very good. Stop right there. Now, can you apply what you have just felt to the individuals that you are attracting into your life, recognizing that whether they manifest it emotionally, physiologically, mentally, or not, it is all a reflection of the same ideas that you have just exemplified here tonight at your time? That they all are, in a sense, created from love. Every situation they are experiencing in this way is unique, and it is all for the purpose of their own understanding of clarifying the idea that they have chosen to be. And if you can see them with your inner sight rather than fixate on them with your outer sight, then you can truly see them. You follow me? And that can allow you the opportunity, when you look in a mirror, to truly see you as well, for what you really are, and not what you think you should be, and not what you think they should be. Thank you very much.
Disease and Changing the Body
Audience Member: For your loving willingness. Yeah. I have, um, a couple of questions. In listening to you talk tonight about, um, disease within the body, um, I was exposed to the idea, the concept that we can — if consciousness creates form, is that correct?
Response: Yes.
Audience Member: That we can, um, change our body? Yes. Get rid of disease? Not get rid of — or be the idea that does not contain disease?
Response: Yes. Yes.
Audience Member: Um, does that mean that one can also physically choose to change their body as well?
Response: Can be done. Can be done. Now, you will find that the degree to which it happens in your society will usually be reflective of what degree will serve the overall society. You follow me? Yes. If you find that a complete and total physiological change will serve the mass consciousness, then if you focus on that idea, on being that idea, then that will occur to whatever degree a change does occur. That is reflective of what best serves the overall mass consciousness at this time. I see. Thank you. Thank you.
Murder, Assassination, and Suicide
Audience Member: Um, my other question has to do with, um, I was listening to your response to the question about suicide. Um, I have a very dear friend who is, um, a paid assassin by the government.
Response: Oh, right.
Audience Member: Um, and he, uh, has just left, uh, several weeks ago to commit murder towards someone, and I was placed in the position of having to explore my own integrity. And I let him know how I felt about that, and I feel that it is wrong. Um, and I guess that, you know, his being in that position, I see now, has served a purpose for me as well.
Response: All right. Now, you can understand first of all that there is no need for judgment upon it — right, wrong. But allow me to suggest an approach. May I? You can allow the individual the opportunity to recognize that all murder is suicide, for all are one idea. And in this way, to kill off even a portion of yourself in this way is invalidating yourself and creating the type of reality that brings with it those experiences all upon the self that reflect that invalidation. All murder is suicide. All death, ultimately, in that way, is suicide, though there are differences in the methodologies. But simply, in your terms, because you are all one idea, all murder is suicide. Now, you may ask the individual if he is suicidal, and allow the individual to accept, on whatever terms his imagination can allow him to accept, the idea. There’s no need to force an understanding, for that cannot be done. Yes. But you can offer different perspectives that may allow that individual to change their mind and refocus on what they believe the world to be, which then can change the world for them. And they can also recognize that they are self-empowered, and they are self-empowered enough as an individual, and you are self-empowered enough as a group, as a country, as a world, to have any idea you wish to experience without needing to harm anyone else to get it.
Understand that when you feel you must enforce your idea upon someone else, you don’t really believe that idea has merit. Otherwise, why would you have to force something you know to be true on someone else? If you know it is a truth, then you know everyone ultimately will eventually experience it. Only when you do not believe in the idea you hold for yourself to be your beliefs do you feel the need to force them on someone else. You follow me? Yes. You may discuss that idea with that individual as well. Thank you.
And that is one of the commonalities that what you call your country has with all the other countries that you think are your enemies. You all believe that you need to force your beliefs on someone else, and that means that you don’t believe what you believe in. Because what you really believe in, what you know for a fact to be true, you don’t need to force on anyone. You follow me? Yes. I do. Share these ideas and let the individual choose for himself. Thank you. Thank you very much. Sure.
Believing in Beliefs / The Conductor
Audience Member: Male energy — post — oh, thank you. You’re very receptive. Um, need — in what’s called the Great Pyramid, there’s a place that we call the King’s Chamber. Yes. And, uh, in the King’s Chamber is what was found to be an empty stone box without a lip. Yes. And the resting king. When I saw it, there was a break-out, a chunk taken out of the, uh, the stone box. I have a couple of questions regarding that, and then another if I may. Uh, what was that box used for?
Response: For the initiate to lie within so they could project themselves out of their body.
Audience Member: Fantastic. Would you have any more comments you’d care to share about that? Is what the original pyramid was for anyway?
Response: As initiation for the expansion of the understanding of the soul being.
Audience Member: Interesting. How recently did that — was that used, and why was the pyramid closed off with the large stone block so that — them had access to that chamber?
Response: In this way, you will understand that there was a recognition of the ending of a timing of knowledge that was brought from what you call Atlantis. And when there was the recognition that the initiates were no longer in existence within the society, then the chamber was sealed.
Audience Member: I ask another question, of course. Um, I played for a symphony orchestra, and we have a conductor who is very good and who I would like to, uh, understand and interact with more than I do. I have a difficulty understanding the way he relates —
Response: One moment. Tonight’s discussion is about believing in beliefs. Now, you can have a belief, and you can also believe that you have a belief. And in this way, many of what you hold to be your initial beliefs are founded on nothing more than belief in another belief to support it.
Audience Member: I have difficulty in interacting —
Response: Again, that is not a law of nature. It is not chiseled in steel. It is a belief. If you can choose to understand that you already are an interaction, no matter what definition the interaction takes, you already are an interaction with that individual. Then you can simply know that if you already are an interaction with that individual, and if you do not prefer the definition of the interaction, then you can rewrite the definition of what that interaction is. You follow me? Yes. Now, how does your imagination choose to rewrite the definition of the interaction that you already are with that other individual?
Audience Member: Okay. Thank you. What I would like to do is understand more. I am —
Response: I beg your pardon. Repeat after me: “I am.”
Audience Member: I am.
Response: “The interaction.”
Audience Member: The interaction.
Response: “Of understanding.”
Audience Member: Of understanding.
Response: Like that. Tune — I shall learn to sing it. You are singing it right now. Understand again that if you can even conceive of an idea, you are it. You can only perceive what you contain. You are equal to the vibration of that which you perceive to be real. Say it once more. All right. In other words, as you create an idea, whether vocalized or imagined, you are in synchronous harmony with it, or you would never hit that note. When you are giving a note, you are that note, and you are what that note represents. Therefore, as you say, “I am the interaction of understanding,” that is the note that you are. It is the symphony that you are, and that is what will play itself out if you truly know that you have chosen to believe, but that is equally as true as any other thing you could believe, and you simply make a preferential choice. You follow me? Yes.
Audience Member: My main question is, I do not wish to impose upon him.
Response: You won’t. Understand again, if you simply allow the idea of your integrity to have created your new belief of yourself, then you will know that the timing is also perfect, and that they will interact with you and you will interact with them. You will create, you will co-create situations in which it is obviously all right to interact. And then when you see those opportunities, you will act upon them, thereby granting yourself the validity and the conviction of actually being the idea you are now assuming that you are, to reinforce that reality by acting upon the opportunities you give yourself to act upon, when you create those opportunities by being, by trusting, by knowing that you are that reality. Perfect. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
Acting and Self-Expression
Audience Member: I have a deep desire to express myself more than I do as an actress and an entertainer. More than you do? I keep seemingly, for years, scratching the surface. I’m not — um, um, can you give me some way to see this clear?
Response: What surface are you scratching? Define the surface. Where is it?
Audience Member: It’s an arbitrary point in my estimation.
Response: All right. Define it. All right. What is the surface?
Audience Member: I don’t — I’m not working as much as I want to work, and I don’t seem to contact the right people.
Response: Right people — the people that you put — me — to work. Are you an actor?
Audience Member: Yes.
Response: Are you sure?
Audience Member: Yes.
Response: Really sure? Then why not act like one?
Audience Member: You are acting like —
Response: Allow me to put it this way. Here is the idea I perceive you to be: “I am an actress that contains the idea of not being able to act.” That is the whole idea that you are exploring. Now, if you are willing to prefer that you are an actress who contains the idea of being able to act in perfect timing, then that will be the manifestation of the reality you will experience. You follow me?
Audience Member: Well, how has it served you to be the idea of an actress who does not act?
Response: Ask — how has it turned you? What have you learned by being the being you are being?
Audience Member: Trusting myself.
Response: All right. It also has shown you what you prefer. Yet all right. Now, how, in your terms, can you trust yourself more than you already do? Understand that even what you are experiencing has been the result of your trust, because you showed yourself what you needed to show yourself. You can certainly trust that. Therefore, let what you have shown yourself serve you then by not judging the reality that you have. You can create another reality.
Audience Member: Margo, would you care to read that idea? All right. “Now is the perfect timing we have all co-created it.”
Response: And now this can be an example for you as well of the perfect timing in which you are always functioning. So pay attention to the reflection of yourself that you have co-created. When you allow yourself the opportunity to not judge yourself for the ideas you are experiencing and the way you are experiencing them, and allow the way it happens to you to be the way that serves you, then it will not matter to you that it’s happened that way. And when it does not matter to you that it happens that way, you are giving another way an opportunity to come in. You are not focused on the one way that you have experienced. Got to sing him. Thank you for your loving act, for understanding his way in — in this life, this physical life, you’re always acting the part you show to play to serve you. Follow me? Thank you very much.
The Great Pyramid and Ancient Civilizations
Audience Member: One moment. You want — what the time frame —
Response: Thank you. You will find one combination, at least: the pyramids you are familiar with — early Egyptian civilization with late Atlanteans, with some, some what you call extraterrestrial intermixing. That is the earliest in that way. Stonehenge, in this way, another remnant of Atlantean civilization, which we call the Druidic fashion, that in this way created that as a remnant, as a symbol of what they believed they had lost in their relationship to nature by destroying themselves in Atlantis. In this way, you will find that at the island chain there were several ideas of destruction in this way over a long period of time, stretching to what you understand in your time frame all the way, let us say, intrinsically, as the existence of the landmass itself, as the beginning of the civilization, from approximately the idea anywhere from 100,000 of your years to 50,000 of your years ago in this way, and also up to the ending point of what you would recognize to be approximately 11,500 of your years ago, to what you call the final submergence. In this way, the idea is not atomic as you understand it, but vibratory — the transformation of light directly into vibratory energy, more akin to what you would understand to be through crystal and energy, the laser that you have now created in your society, but slightly different. It was the vibratory resonance pitched too high that activated synchronous harmonic vibration in subterranean volcanic chambers that caused the collapse of the island chain. Follow me? Thank you.
Easter Island and Ancient Influences
Audience Member: Are descendants — yes. Is it true that the Easter Island, um, the statues that were brought from Orion, like a scare code to scare the natives away because the spacecraft were landing?
Response: Now, there is some connection, some, to that idea. But again, there’s not — that anything was brought — recognize simply that in that idea you call Thea in your Pacific Ocean, in that way you will find there was some initial interaction, initial identification with the idea of the Orion energy in this way. And there was some recognition of some of that, but not in the way you think. It was more in archetypal recognition of energy that now existed upon the planet, and it was, let us say, an instinctual representational expression by the natives who existed in Thea to represent the aspect of what had now become blended with the entire idea of your Earth civilization. That is all we will say at this time. Some — some, yes. Again, also the idea — what you call Atlantean influence, some Orion influence, also some idea of other densities, other density Venusian influence, in this way. For you will find in that area you call the Yucatan, the idea of what you call your Mayan calendar representing a year that is not what you call your Earth year to be upon what you call the inscriptions upon the stone you call the Gate of the Sun. Thank you.
Mass Consciousness and Physical Limitations
Audience Member: Um, two questions. One, uh, is about the idea earlier expressed of, uh, complying with the mass consciousness on this time. You understand that I — are — uh, nothing much needs to be expanded except that the ideas that you can experience as a physiological being will not extend beyond the limit that serves the mass consciousness. However, you are finding that your entire idea of yourself is changing, and therefore that is why more and more, quote-unquote, is allowed to be experienced that seemingly is opposed to what was previously able to be experienced upon your planet. As you stretch this definition of yourself, so the mass consciousness will agree to more and more leeway, so to speak, as to what is or is not possible to serve itself as a reflection to what it can or cannot do in this physical reality. It’s part of the agreement then of experiencing this reality as to, at this timing and everything else, as to what you will or will not do within that. Basically, this does not mean you cannot identify with the probability, for in this way it is the ability to, even as we have said, conceive that such a thing might be possible, that is your first indication of a change within the mass consciousness.
Animals as Guides / Endangered Species
Audience Member: The other question was about cats. You mentioned earlier that when — was talking about her cat, but it was a guide. Is that all animal consciousness is very willing, very lovingly reflecting to you many different aspects of your consciousness that you have created to be outside yourselves? Animals are guides for many different portions of the consciousness you are only beginning to remember. And also, in earlier sessions you said that they don’t karmically reincarnate as we do.
Response: They reincarnate, but not with the sense of karma, except the karma that you choose to create for yourselves to which they may lovingly attach themselves. I see. For the purposes of serving you. Again, they come back to us. They can, yes. They, um, reincarnate, uh, into a third and then fourth density as I mean — as you shall, so shall they. Okay. Thank you. To experience yourself as separate from the universe in this way, whereas in fourth density you will see through the illusion, for you will know more of yourself and see from, in a sense, a higher point of view. You follow me? Yes. I do. So the density defining can continue to move forward as our understanding of the higher consciousness moves forward, and you will then see through that perspective. Yes.
Audience Member: Is it truth that the extraterrestrials are connected through underground, uh, corridors or —
Response: No. Not all of them. There are a few that are here and there, but not all of them. No. Sure. Now, there will be a few of your minutes remaining for this interaction.
Audience Member: Yes. Yes. Would you address the, um, idea of animals on this planet and with respect to what’s happening to our so-called endangered species? How is this going to — I don’t know.
Response: All right. Now, simply again understand that animals are always willing to reflect to you the state of your own beingness. And as you create that idea, you have created the belief that you yourselves are endangered in that way of becoming extinct. For recognize, they will always be willing, if that is what you require of them, to lay down their lives for you to reflect the idea of the state in which you find yourselves to be creating your civilization. Also recognize in this way that the animals upon your planet exhibit the idea of being territorial because you do. Animals upon my planet are not territorial. Simply in this way, you will find that the idea of territory is what you stake out to be your own in terms of possession, in that way possessing an area of land that is not to be interacted with with other animals, with other beings. In this way, you will find that in our civilization all animal life can be found based basically in all portions of our planet at different times. There is no defined territory that anyone needs to defend, for there is no sense of defense. There is some remnant of this idea in our civilization still to this date, but in this way you will find that the majority at this time of our animal forms are more in the term symbiotic and rely upon each other for their existence, and are all also more, now in this time frame reference of our civilization, also energy absorbent. So as we move into the fourth density, then, um, we will create the idea of abundant animal life. And — and yes. So this isn’t — the problem is a situation like any other situation that you can redefine. You follow me? Yeah. Again, when you allow yourselves to understand that all killing is suicide, then you will bring the idea home and you will not want to destroy your home. Follow me? Yes, I do.
Parasites and Symbiosis
Audience Member: You have par — there is some remnant idea of this, and yet again, once again, those that are attached in that way to the idea of the physiological construct that we are will all be of a positively serving nature in that way, even as you yourself have in that sense created some that are in that way positively — so not in that way — no, there will be — be one in this sense that you will find that will be a remnant of that idea that in this way does perform this service at this time, where there will be closer to what you would understand to be our perception — is your terminology you call the “sloth.” You follow me? In this way, this animal, upon creating, co-creating the opportunity to be upon the skin of any individual, be it our human form being or another animal, has the ability to act as a living, in a sense, solar crystal. And in this sense can imbue a filtering from the sunlight through its body into the skin and form a re-energization or a rearrangement of the crystalline structure of our cellular being. And in that rearrangement, derives for itself a sustenance in the energy that is released in the rearrangement. The rearrangement serves those that are rearranged, and the rearrangement serves that which does the rearranging. You follow me? For it is the energy that comes out of the rearrangement that is the sustenance energy upon which that animal lives, not the direct energy that it transfers to do the rearranging. You follow me? So in that way you may say, yes, parasite, symbiotic in that sense, but beneficial, for the rearrangement is always a reflection of positive evolution. Follow me?
Audience Member: Sounds like a turbo slug if you wish. Don’t see me just — we don’t know how that — like, for in that way — exactly.
Abortion and Miscarriage
Audience Member: I have a question. You just said before that, um, all murder — suicide is all killing ourselves. Yes. Is this true also of abortion?
Response: Our concept of abortion. All right. Now, in this sense, recognize that even while we are defining that all killing in this way is suicide, we are not judging the idea, for all is learned from everything that is done. Now, we are not saying that you need what you call to be abortion, but in this way it is not intrinsically negative in and of itself, for you are understanding that since your society has created the idea that such a thing can occur within its needs and its wants, are only attracting individuals that only need to experience that much of physical reality to fulfill their needs. So you are not depriving anyone of anything in that ultimate sense. You will simply find, however, that when you allow yourself to be in communication with all consciousness, you will not necessarily then find yourself being pregnant when you do not need to be. And that is how that symbol will transform. You are not intrinsically in that way doing anything wrong. But in this way you may understand that there is another way that may be, in your terms, more efficient. And in this sense, again, in terms of what you recognize to actually be the personality consciousness, that personality consciousness in your terms does not actually, so to speak, enter the body until just prior to physical birth. You follow me? Yeah. Whatever energy essence is experienced in the time that was experienced in the womb to the time of what you call the abortion was all that that entity needed to extend of one of its tiny fragments into physical reality, let us say, to test the waters of physicality for itself, to experience just that much of physicality. And the purpose has been served. To some degree, it is not exactly the same as the idea of, in your terms, the killing of a fully formed consciousness that is fixed into physical reality. Though in this way, again, it is a symbol you do not necessarily need, for it does bring up within you the concerns of the negative idea. And in this way you can simply understand that if you are in touch with the idea of all consciousness, then you will know, in this way, as we have chosen to create in our civilization, the interaction with the consciousness to be born will then simply recognize that when the purpose is served to be born, it will be born. When the purpose is not served, there will never be even the beginning of the creation of a birth. You follow me? Yes.
Audience Member: Does the idea of suicide enter into abortion at all? When you said that murder was a form of suicide, does that apply to abortion at all?
Response: Now, that is what this being has just asked. Yeah, but I didn’t understand where suicide could — or simply what was being said is that all killing is suicide, since in killing you are killing a portion of yourself. You follow me? Now, the idea is not exactly the same idea, because in this way what you call the physiological consciousness personality is not actually instilled within what you call the fetus until just prior to birth. But in this way, it is not necessarily saying that this is a symbol that you must continue, for what it is a reflection of is the fact that you are not in touch with all levels of your consciousness, and that if you know that the idea of having a birth serves that being to be born, then it will simply be born, or it will not even be created as a fetus to begin with. There will not be the question of abortion, in the sense that when you are in communication with other aspects of yourself and are fully cognizant of the purposes for which you create and co-create other beings to be physically in your life, then you will be in touch with the being wishing to be born, and you will simply consciously, clearly co-create either a birth or not a birth. There will be no in-between. Thank you.
Audience Member: But miscarriage — then is miscarriage a choice to —
Response: Yes. To not continue with that process. Yes. Okay. And in this way, understand it is not even so much the choice to not continue; it is the result of the choice that has already been determined to experience just that time frame and no longer. You follow me? Yes, I do. That is the reflection of the agreement that was made: “You may come into my physical body in that way and partake of physicalness exactly as you need to up to a certain point, then not needing to experience that any longer.” My physiological reaction be to miscarry, to allow you the opportunity in this way to pull back the idea of your energy that you have instilled in the physical form that you are experiencing yourselves to be for that short period of time. All right. All right. All right. All right.
For in this way, understand this: there are many, many, many souls being born upon your planet at this time that are a reflection of the idea of the transformation. And in this way, they are carrying within them the opportunity to, when they are physically born, to remember who they are. And in this way, many of these souls have chosen, as we have said, as a symbol, to stick perhaps one of their little fingers in the water to get used to the idea, so that they can choose individuals to make the agreements with that will allow them to create the remembrance, so that that will serve the fourth density transformation. Understand that many of the children being born now this way, they will remind you what the agreement was all about. Follow me? For they are now fourth density individuals. Individuals.
Reincarnation of Brother
Audience Member: Briefly, I’d like to know if my brother reincarnated in December into the body of a female child named Shan. Why? And why do you have that understanding?
Response: It’s an idea I have.
Audience Member: All right. What does it do for you? And how did your brother, in your terms, die?
Audience Member: Cancer.
Response: All right. Why December? Um, what does that represent for you?
Audience Member: Well, I — no, it’s just that I know someone who had a child in December, and that person —
Response: This is very connected to you in this lifetime. All right. And you saw the opportunity for that consciousness to express itself in that way. Do you find that you feel the identity in that way to be a connection for yourself? Are you attracted to that child in that way?
Response: Then at this time, allow yourself the opportunity to view the child. And when you view the child, understand that there is a connection, literal or not, as you are choosing to understand it. For now, we will not say, for there are many understandings that you have yet to create for yourself within this idea of why you are forming a connection. It is more than just the idea of exploring the literalness of whether it is a direct reincarnation. When you have gotten a little further in understanding why the connection is being formed, there may be more opportunity on your behalf to understand whether it is, in your terms, literal or not. But for now, it is our perception that one way or another, to say yes or no would not serve you. There is a process going on, and it is a process of forming a relationship, and it is the essence of that relationship that is the important thing of this interaction, not the specifics at this time. The feelings, the connections. You follow me? Then extend your love in that way to the child and listen — listen with your imagination to the energy that child may send. All right. Thank you. No, thank you.
Closing
Response: Now, it is well. We will extend to each and every one of you at this time the recognition that your beliefs, as you choose to believe them, are the methodologies that serve you. And as you allow them to serve you, you give yourselves the opportunity to try, so to speak, other beliefs, to live other ideas, to expand the idea that you are, and to experience directly the new understanding of yourself. It is the willingness to recognize yourself as the experience of your life, as the event of your life, rather than experience yourself apart from it, outside from it. It is the willingness to know that you are the experience of your life that will allow you to see yourselves as the fourth density transformation itself. You are the experience of the fourth density transformation, and together we are the co-creation of that idea, both in your terms and in our own.
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