Spacecraft Propulsion and UFO Encounter

Participant: How is your spacecraft powered? How can it be duplicated on a smaller scale on Earth. When I was 70 years old I was out in this large field. I saw these big disc of glowing light and the ladder going up to it. And as I approached it, it started retracting away from me, and I kept running towards it and it kept getting further and further away, and then it just took off.

I was just wondering what significance that might have. Significant. I wanted to climb, climb that ladder.

Bashar: it gave you the opportunity to instill that sense of curiosity in you that would allow you to do so in your own life, uhhuh, so that ultimately you may create for yourself an equality with that idea and meet them on their own level

Participant: it was a craft of some some type, right?

Bashar: Tthey recognized the Perfection of the timing of the coincidence that you were there just to see the retract, because they knew what kind of a symbol it would create in you.

Participant: Yeah. I remember that very clearly up to this day and I’ve always wondered about that.

Bashar: On your planet you have already several times duplicated in a smaller scale, some of the effects of our spacecraft.

Much of this information has been suppressed by your government.

You can begin to explore this idea again, however, with what you term to be rapidly rotating conductors—that which you call Copper—in disk form.

By rotating it approximately what you turn to be 2300 revolutions per minute, you will find you will be able to generate certain magnetic fields that will allow you the beginnings of the explorations of the tappings of the energy field around your planet.

This will let you recognize:

• the different ways you can utilize light
• that the energy you are experiencing are different variations of the same light energy

We will take the starlight in space and amplify it to such a degree through the ideas of again rotational conductors of a higher frequency that we will create microwave Fields round and about our spacecraft.

In this way, that will allow us to unlock from one reality and reinstate the idea of the locational property within the navigational coordinates or the identity of the craft, which will allow it in this way to Simply cease existing at location A and take up Residence at location B without having traveled the intervening distance.

This light energy can be Amplified and stored by crystalline matrices of carbon and magnesium interlaced in such a way as to be a metal Crystal of a degree of Purity you have not yet achieved on on your planet.

This will then create the flash Matrix. The energy will be transferred through this flash Matrix and Amplified down into the rotating cylinders. This will be a variation of the IDU called magnesium and copper—not exactly, not literally, not in the way you understand those elements.

You have not refined them to that point.

But you will find in this way that when it revolves, it will amplify the energy to such an extent that it will embed itself in the fibers in the hole that are again Crystal nature to some degree.

In this way, they will cause the field to rotate in specific directions about the craft, and whenever any of these rotating fragments are reversed, it will have different effects within the field. It will be an unlocking in space or it will be an unlocking in time.

Participant: How large should the rotating discs be if I wanted to experiment with?

Bashar: We suggest that you begin with 6 in in diameter, right, and approximately 1/4 inch thick.

Participant: What kind of power source should I use to have them rotate at that?

Bashar: You may use any type of what you turn to be electric generator to cause the initial rotation. If you put a ring of what you turn to be electromagnets around the outside of the spinning disc, when it reaches a certain point in this way, you will find it will begin to energize the magnets and the magnets will keep the rotation going.

It will reach a certain level. You will be able in this way to measure the amplification of the energy, and you will have the beginnings of the understanding of the creation of that bubble, that field.

Participant: 6 in and half in? Right. Quarter, quarter.

Bashar: Half an inch will also be all right.

Participant: The electromagnets, how big should they be?

Bashar: That is up to you so that you can get at least 20 around the disc.

Participant: Okay. This should be in a circle right around the… yes. I see. Thank you. What about their polar orientation?

Bashar: North top, south bottom. Any fi strength for those? Mm. Yes. For the first experiment, it will not matter very much. Now, you may also research some of the literature which already exists, explore some of the ideas that have been undertaken by the individual in your Society you called Nicola Tesla.

Participant: Go back to… oh, much further. But Tesla… go back to oh much further, but understanding this way the individual understood much of the energy requirements. You will also find again in various obscure portions of your literature references to other devices in this way having been attempted. One individual of the name Townsend Brown will have been involved. Town… brown. Townend Brown.

Participant: U, these journals you talk about, could you… is it possible for you to give us a name of one or two?

Bashar: This will be all we can do at the moment.

The League, Dreams, and Anger

Participant: I asked you about the network and the league, and you suggested that I would have a dream that would be a memory. And in fact, two days after he gave me that suggestion, I had a dream that was… I would like to share.

I went to the bank and a friend of mine had given me a check that he signed over to me, and they wouldn’t deposit it. And I got really because they said he had to be there for him for them to identify him. And I uh started… I went away and I was crying. I was really upset. And I started thinking about the rampa book that or something about Rampa that I read this weekend, in which apparently he… part of his uh, the way he talks to people is is he gives them things like uh, “I’m going to make a woman out of you,” and “you’re going to meet your soulmate in three months,” and “uh, don’t take this movie, wait for that movie because uh this is going to make you famous.” I said, you get the idea.

Bashar: Yes.

Participant: Um, and I got really mad because you don’t do that.

Bashar: Not my style. I know.

Participant: Know. And then I realized that um, no matter when anybody says to you or pretends to say they’re going to do or not do for you, you’re still always doing it yourself. Of course. And um, then I just sat there and I cried for a while and let that go and knew that I was centering. Why? And uh, I started thinking back to what that was reflecting to me.

Bashar: Yes.

Participant: Um, and what I got was that the bank teller in effect was telling me that there was part of myself that wasn’t there, wasn’t integrated, and therefore I wasn’t allowing my entire abundance because all of me wasn’t there. And since it was a male person that needed to be there, I figured that it was probably the male aspect of me that I needed to integrate, which is represented to me by action.

Bashar: So all right. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. How do you feel?

Participant: Good.

Bashar: Thank you. Thank you. How do you feel now?

Participant: I feel fine.

Bashar: Oh, good. I wasn’t angry. You very long does not matter to me. I know because we always know that you are always only ever angry with yourself.

Participant: Yeah. I knew that too.

Bashar: Thank you. Thank you for allowing us to share in the co-creation of your anger which allowed you to align yourself with yourself.

Participant: Thank you. You’re always welcome to be angry at me.

Conversation 21: Extra Rib, Family Karma, and Pyrite

Participant: [Laughter] B. Two questions please. The first I have an extra rib and an extra vertebrae. I thought maybe you could tell me the significance.

Bashar: Restar people now. Understanding this way as well suggested, you are not alone. It is not all that unusual at this time, nor has it really ever been. However, recognize that there is some degree of symbology within this idea to other connections. Yes. To other civilizations, as there are many symbologies which reflect some of these ideas.

Participant: What is the other question?

Participant: Um, my father’s brother married my mother’s sister. This is probably not that unusual either, but and they had seven children. Between these four people and I feel like we’ve been in this thing for eons. All right. And I feel like it’s finally beginning to crack loose. But I in a sense was wondering if you go also give some more elimination.

Bashar: Why?

Participant: I guess it’s uh, seems to have caused a lot of pain, and I’m trying to find the best way that I can uh participate by being who you are.

Bashar: Thank. Now recognize that you have spun around each other for the all this cycle many times. Yes. Of the cycle of judgment and the cycle of separation. And now, yes, this family in a sense can begin to dissolve to form other families because now is the cycle of integration beginning. You follow me?

Participant: Yes. Integrate within yourself and you will create the idea of yourself, and you will create the idea of the fourth density family. You follow me?

Participant: Yes. Thank you. One Moment. One Moment. All right. Thanks. B. First I want to share before I ask a couple questions. I just love it when you guys talked of engineering stuff. It just Thrills because it’s such a wonderful beautiful sharing of Consciousness on a scientific level. It’s exciting. Oh. Um, next I have a couple L little baby questions. The first thing is pyrite. What is this pyrite? I love it. It’s these cubicle crystals. Does it have any special significance besides that it grows out of the ground and makes cubes?

Bashar: In this way, you can recognize there are many variations of that idea, and again it is in Crystal and form. It is another type of idea of Crystal and embodies within itself again simply another exemplification of the many ways in which the electromagnetic force arranges itself. You can glean many ideas of relationships of different ideas to another relationship of another idea by simply exploring the substances.

Participant: Okay. Um, Sunday when I I had my experience, quote-unquote, of channeling, you know, in such a way, Panete was the guy that came through me. But I was always under the impression that most people who Channel don’t remember. And I felt… I felt like I was standing on the left side of my head and this other energy was coming through me, and I kept saying, “Am I just pretending this is happening or is this happening?”

Bashar: It is not unusual first of all at the beginning for you to be completely consciously aware of what is going on, for you feel that is safer. You want to make sure everything is going all right. You also will find that it is not uncommon that you retain more or less some degree of that Consciousness. You follow me? Sometimes you will simply find that your Consciousness May divert itself in other ways, but you still know something is going on. You are still to some degree basically aware of it on some level, in some way, in some manner. You will simply become used to the energy as you have chosen to become and you will manifest your connection in your own unique way.

Participant: So I wasn’t making it up?

Bashar: Okay. Don’t answer. Don’t answer. Um, finger. On one level, you are making everything, creating it.

Participant: All right. Right. I do understand that and it’s true. Um, all of a sudden my finger… this I… you can’t see it but you probably can lean it. But there’s this finger… I don’t know what you call it, the one beside the thumb… four finger. The four finger. There’s just the index. It really index. Pointer. This one. This. Very good. Yes. Pointer. Yes. Pointer. Indicator. Index. The pointex indicator finger of mine. The third joint down, it’s like itching really badly, and it’s done that off and on. I just realized this has happened a lot before. Is there something going on with this energy that I can know besides that is itching? It seems like it’s a symbol. Does it seem that way?

Bashar: Love you. Thank you for your reflection. [Laughter] Did you see that? How about this: as long as you allow the flow to keep going out, it will not pile up in the joint.

Participant: All right. Why do I want to nod to open it up that way? Huh? Or perhaps to get an idea that you have been eating away at yourself.

Conversation 22: Bill’s Question on Mass Change & Speed of Light

Participant: Um, my question is this is for Bill. Do you remember Bill? My teacher in Atlanta? She met him last week. He wants to ask this question. I feel stupid even asking it.

Bashar: Why?

Participant: Because I tried to explain to him that there’s no way… what I explain to him that his concept of this question has nothing really to do with your concept of tra. But you can explain that. Bill, listen, this is the part on the tape. This question list: as a body approaches the speed of light, yes, how do you, your people as Etians, yes, handle the mass change in the interstellar travel? Thank you.

Bashar: Thank you. Thank you. First of all, recognize that there is an assumption in this way that we choose to approach that speed in the physical universe. There is no need to do this. The idea of the hyper jump does not involve travel in the physical universe, and in this way does not involve the buildup of mass. You follow me?

Participant: Yes.

Bashar: So if you were to travel at that speed in the physical Universe, yes, there would be a buildup. But also understand this: the field around our spacecraft isolates us from the universe. We are not in that way adding energy. We are our own self-contained universe, and to us, we are standing perfectly still. You follow me? Therefore, there is no buildup in the craft or for the craft, as the craft is not in the same universe.

Participant: So that does not defy Einstein’s Theory that the mass builds up?

Bashar: Simply, you are not in the physical Universe in your Trel. You just change of life is the physical limit of the third density universe, but we do not travel in third density. Mm.

Dream of the League (Ocean Town)

Participant: I had the dream two nights later that I suspect had something to do with the network. All right. Okay. I was in this place that did not look too unlike the Earth, however, it… we would describe it as an ocean town or a fishing Town. Very very much water. Very a lot of water.

Very much water. I was with a group of people who I cannot say I saw them physical in the dream. I have no idea who they were, but they were comrades.

We were “sneaking around” doing some sort of a mission, and we had these instruments we were using light, I believe greens and blues, for two purposes.

One was to communicate with each other. Yes. Secretly. The other was to influence those that we were trying to influence around us. We were also hiding from uh, I don’t want to say negative entities, but why not?

Bashar: Well, that is what you felt.

Participant: At the time, yes. We felt them to be all right. Were you successful in hiding or did they find you in the dream?

Participant: I was never found.

Bashar: All right. Um, what about your friends?

Participant: No, we were never found. All right. This place seems so familiar and I know I’ve never been there in this life. All right. And I knew immediately when I woke up that it was the league or whatever. All right. Ter it. And I just wanted to know. I wanted some clarification about what was going on in that in that dream.

Bashar: Understanding this way at that time, the league undertook many such ideas you call raids. In this way, it was the idea that individuals who you sensed, or they sensed you, were going along for the ride, so to speak, who they sensed wished to join but were surrounded in this way by all the negativity. They thus tunneled in an energy sense through the town to arrive at those individuals’ place of dwelling and take them out with them without anyone seeing them. You follow me? Now, sometimes they were caught, sometimes they were not.

Participant: I see. I assume it to me not my particular band was not caught.

Bashar: You were not caught, but you were going along in order to learn some of the ideas about what the league stood for. It was very early on. Very early on in your overall being’s desire to form the network for this planet. You were simply patterning yourself after them in this way. But now recognize they know that they have in your terms made a mistake. The idea of fighting fire with fire is what got them destroyed.

Participant: Yes. Yes.

Bashar: Therefore, it is now the idea of offering this planet the opportunity to make a preference between positive and negative manifestation rather than having to fight the idea of negative manifestation with more negative energy. You follow me?

Participant: Yes. Definitely. Fighting fire with fire only makes a bigger fire. So that was one of the things I learned. Yes. Um, where was this place?

Bashar: It was simply one of the planets within one of the dominated systems on a timeline that I can understand in a you just a general sense. It was both in your last life. It is now. It was several hundred thousand years ago. Mm. Because it is a parallel Time Track.

Participant: Yes. Was Carol with me at this time?

Bashar: Yes. We were physical beings.

Participant: Yes. Roers? Yes. Not humanoid?

Bashar: Are we were humanoid. Humanoid. Yes. Humanoid. Not human. Not exactly. Okay. You were already in the league.

Participant: Right. Um, what about my husband? What about him? From what was he with us? What do you think?

Participant: I’ve had very similar dreams. I feel that I was definitely a part of it.

Bashar: You think you have been together that long? Do you not?

Participant: No. Not not.

Bashar: All right. Very good. Sparks along way. SP Sparks along the way.

Participant: Yes. Um, oh shoot. Oh, there was another question about that. Um, oh, I believe this might have been a um, oh, I believe this might have been a symbolic representation, but this is going to be very humorous. I think.

Bashar: All right. There was always enjoy a good laugh.

Participant: There was this one part where now I believe I was caught. All right. And I was laying on this C… C… and I don’t know whether I was projecting this to them, but in the dream I was pretending that I was pregnant. All right. Now my conscious mind during the dream was saying, “Well, I have to go to the bathroom and that’s what this is.” But then they were treating me as if I was pregnant. And right. And I believe that this is becoming clearer the more I’m discussing it. Go ahead. And I believe that because they thought I was pregnant, they might have let me go or they… they were easier with me. They were easier.

Bashar: Yes. And you got away. Mm.

Participant: Now, was I… you would have been detained by the local officials.

Participant: Yes. It was definitely local. It was in this fish fishing Village. Yes. Um, was I manipulating matter to make myself or my image to make myself…

Bashar: You were identifying yourself as you had been taught from the idea you learned from the league to identify yourself so completely with a reality that they could not help but perceive the idea that you were in fact pregnant. This was how they saw you.

Participant: I think it’s also um interesting that I had this dream like 3 months ago, and I’ve never felt the need to discuss until now. And the last few days I’ve been having this feeling that I this is coming up now. And um, Hyperion told me last night that after my contact in December, everything is going to just fall into place. It is falling into place right now. I know, but it always has been. He used the term it will be downhill. All right. So I I don’t know what what I’m trying to say. I… it’s all right.

Bashar: Yes. You do. Thank you. Thank you. B.

Conversation 24: Townsend Brown Era and Hypercubes

Participant: Yes. May here toson Brown. Could you elaborate on what era you’re talking about?

Bashar: Relatively recent as you count time within time within your 50s in the United States and also England.

Participant: I see. Um, I have one more question. It’s about the significance of um of a of a figure. Um, cubes within cubes. Um, I’m just curious what dimensionality that that has or what significance that has.

Bashar: Can be representative of the idea you call hyper Cube. Fourth dimensionality in a sense or fifth.

Participant: Yes. I keep drawing that figure for the past couple of years and I was just curious.

Bashar: Go into yourself in the same manner the cube goes into itself. It is that symbol for you. That is where all your answers are: in the center of yourself. The physical idea represented by the cube in this way, as you say, the four corners of your Earth figuratively, but inwardly go into the center of yourself and all the ideas of your physic physical reality will be answered as you unfold.

Participant: But this figure seems endless.

Bashar: Of course it is. So are you.

Participant: Thank you.

Conversation 25: Final Questions (Belief Systems, Blending Consciousness, Sex)

Participant: One moment. There will be in your terms a few more of your minutes remaining. You than you um, just briefly relating to uh the question last question that I asked. Um, I feel that I’m bumping up against a belief system of mine that um I have I guess hidden in some respects that are um not permitting me to change conditions that I want to change. And I’m wondering if can you give me a hint a way to go change yourself? Change how you act.

Participant: Okay. I I think that it’s not so hidden as I think it is. Of course not. I think I’m staring it right in the face and I know it and I’m I’m making…

Bashar: There’s also no need to assume that you must make some major obvious change. Keep living. Again, life is the only process you need to create more life to live. Right? You will experience everything you chose to experience in this life one at a time exactly as you chose within the timing to experience it. Okay. Do not be harsh with yourself.

Participant: All right. Guys, uh, two nights ago as I created transition from waking to dream reality, I vibrated the idea of blending Consciousness with your civilization. Nice. And uh, did you have a good time?

Bashar: Yes. It was fun.

Participant: Um, and the last thing I remember is waking up in a dream uh with a very strong sense that I had actually been there, whever it was. Did you perceive… do you remember somebody saying something to you like “welcome aboard”?

Participant: Um, no. I remember small people all that all seem very excited, but I could not understand anything they were saying.

Bashar: Welcome aboard. Thank aboard. Thank you. Briefly. Yes.

Participant: Um, this question concerns sex, and when I speak of it, I I mean specifically sexual intercourse between two partners with a deep fulfilling love. Um, can sex with love contribute to a Soul’s attainment of a higher plane density or Dimension? Or or does it have anything to do with the prevention of a soul from attaining these goals?

Bashar: Not in unconditional love. Mhm.

It is one of the expressions of physicality that represents the idea of your connection to everything, to All-That-Is. Mm.

Participant: I was wondering because um some uh beings, Jesus, uh, Muhammad, others have abstained from sex, uh, seemingly in order that may explain a few things.

Bashar: Understand in this way that much of what they have said was misinterpreted. Much of their lives unknown.

Participant: Okay. Thank you. Me. You’re a great stud. Any any idea that you can in this way perceive, you can become. And in this way, this is all those individuals ever said. And allow me to remind you that the individual you call Jesus was very far of saying, “My joy I leave with you.” He did not qualify what Joy needed to be. You follow me?

Participant: Have you been sending messages?

Bashar: Me? No. Who? ER to who? To your friend? All the time. All right. Is there something specific you wanted him to show up for tonight?

Participant: I I wasn’t sending for him to come tonight other than well, today maybe I was.

Bashar: All right. Confusion in the time track. Mhm. Um, yeah, that’s true. All right. They send their love.

Bashar: [Applause] You once again allow me to extend to you our unconditional love and the recognition of the reflection of your own unconditional love in the creation of your reality as it is. In this way, it all serves your purpose. And in being so willing Now to create within your reality the idea of the blending of your Consciousness with our Consciousness and every other conscious with All-That-Is, you can recognize that your civilization, our civilization, all civilizations are the sharing that continues forever.