Intense Energy Dynamics and Karma

Participant: For the last couple of weeks I’ve been entangled in an energy Dynamic with another being, man being here.

it’s such an intense Dynamic and why am I there? It feels crazy and oh, very good, then neurotic. how can I be in this state and then be this person who knows that I’m like this Egyptian and all?

Bashar: Because now you are willing to be a little crazy.

You are willing to unlock because you are stabilizing in the center of yourself, and so your reality can have more Mobility to allow more of you to unlock and integrate. You are willing to know now that you do not have to worry about your stability and things around you can seem a little crazy.

You are unlocking. You are now willing to unlock so things can move faster. But in this situation, this being… sometimes it feels like the only way to get out of that strange hold of energy is to walk away from it and not be involved in it.

Participant: Then in a way that feels like that’s ignoring it, you know. I feel like I’m in a bind. And I suppose that now…

Bashar: You can also walk through it rather than away from it and alleviate the effect of the negativity.

Participant: Does does some of this this Dynamic have to do with um… never mind. I’m… anyway, so ask it. Yeah. What… going to that… there seem to be a triangle of energy last week that prompted the whole thing. And and it seemed like I got an image of a past life where I was a child, child in Arabia or Africa or something. So I was wondering if this energy Dynamic had to do with that past life.

Participant: Was the man my mother as I perceived in this time?

Bashar: The masculine energy is stronger, overpowering the idea of the feminine energy. In this way, it is in your terms a backlash effect. All we are allowed to say at this time is a feeling of impotence then creates the idea of over-forcefulness, now which is still the same thing. And you can be a loving reflection to this individual to allow him/her to recognize his/her own balance in the idea of the blending of the male/female energy within the being.

Participant: So the little child that I got is an IM innocence?

Bashar: Innocence.

Ecstatic Coincidence (Radio Station)

Participant: I had an ecstatic explosion of Y. I was listening to the radio about 3:00 in the morning. The DJ announced he wanted to have listeners call up and announce the top 3 most requested songs. So I called up.

And it just so happened the song he wanted me to announce just happened to be the only song that they play on that radio station that I happen to know the song on the piano. And so this is what happened:

[Audio Clip] “Station that I happen to know the song on the piano… happen. Well, it’s 3:00, this is Kym Santa Anna and we got the top three at three. It’s the top three most requested songs this morning and we got someone on the line right now who’s going to tell us what it is. Hi, who’s this? Hi, this is Craig from Alhambra. All right, would you happen to know what the third most requested song is this morning? Yeah, it goes something like this [Music]… the third… more… I can hardly say this. I know I just woke my father up. The third most requested song on KM is Strieber, Together As One.”

Bashar: Your ecstatic explosion of coincidence is when you do see yourself together as one. Yeah. It just happens to be a great title. What a coincidence.

Participant: Yeah. I had a lot of fun. Just so much.

Bashar: Thank you for the generation of the acceleration of your own momentum in this way and the addition and the making of a difference to the overall idea of the transformation from third to Fourth density.

Visions (Crystal Cave, Paris) and Helping Others

Participant: I was going to sleep and I decided to open myself anything. And immediately, almost immediately, saw a vision of what I like to call a Crystal Cave, which was more like a crystal tower of caves, um, in in sort of a crevice in a in a large Cliff.

Bashar: What color?

Participant: Um, mostly clear, but I I saw I think blues and greens. And it I had the feeling that it was either imitating a waterfall or there was a waterfall actually coming over it. And I wondered, I had the feeling it could either be Pleiadian.

Bashar: Yes, it is. Yes.

Participant: Uh, would that mean… no comment. Okay. I’ll explore that further. Oh, comment. Okay. I’ll explore that further. Thank you. Very good. Okay. Um, then I let myself open for another Vision. Um, and at the same time I had a friend on my mind, Jessica, who’s been out of town for a while. And what I saw was that I was on a hovercraft on River uh, which was going down a center lane very quickly and other craft were passing on either side in both directions. I had the feeling that it might be Paris, but it seemed more futuristic to me than the Paris that exists now. Would that be connected in any way to Paris or to Jessica?

Bashar: Our perception of that energy at this time, though it will be up to you to determine for yourself if this is valid, is that it represents an alternate parallel reality.

Participant: Would that be connected to a dream I had also of being in Paris in the future?

Bashar: Okay.

Participant: Um, also another question about Jessica. I was wondering because I’ve been thinking a lot about her lately. Had a very close tie while she was here, although she uh apparently is mixed up in a lot of very heavy Karma. Heavy Karma. Well, she’s had a lot of very distressing things happen to her, which is why she went back to Paris.

Bashar: Your idea of karma is completely self-imposed. She does create it. Yes.

Participant: Um, I wondered then what my connections, possible Connections in the past with her might have been, um, and if that had any reason for her not accepting my help, which I preferred openly to her, and she seemed to accept at the time and turned away and did her own thing.

Bashar: Only in a sense. There’s also an opportunity for you to recognize that you cannot directly in this way actually help anyone except by being the totality of yourself and offering a reflection and assistance and being simply available in this way.

Participant: That… but I was… I was wondering if that had connected to other lives. To some degree, could you explain any of them?

Bashar: Okay. Right. One is also yes, in Paris in the past. Mm. In your time frame. Mhm. Okay. Thank you.

Participant: Um, one other thing for now. Um, during one of my regressions where I was quote-unquote blocking a little, um, I received one vision of an Egyptian symbol of horns with a disc in the center. Yes. Um, which I felt had something to do with my uh, my one of my guides perhaps.

Bashar: Oh, in a sense. Was that an archetypical in a sense?

Participant: Okay. Could you uh expand on that for me?

Bashar: You will expand on that together. Who? Me? Yes.

Participant: Okay. I thought that had something to do with it. Um, he… excuse me, can I… I didn’t know him in the soccer lifetime, but we… it was a passing acquaintance. Right. That keep exploring.

Participant: Okay. I I apparently was um some kind of a not an ambassador but something a little lower than an ambassador at the time of Sakura. Could you tell me anything about that?

Bashar: Yes.

Participant: Was I helping in a positive way towards towards peace or you thought so?

Bashar: Oh no. Said I screw things up. Not really. Thank you. Thank you.

Participant: Yes. I was really… thank you. Thank you. Yes. I was high, uh, sort of high when this happened. This incident, I was listening to music and all of a sudden I’m floating around under music. I like to know uh, how do you… how does your Consciousness blend with something like that?

Bashar: Because everything in All-That-Is is your Consciousness. You simply realized it and thus became it. Everything in your reality is you. You are the event of your life. Ideas are not what you have; ideas are what you are. You simply removed the separation between yourself and the idea and became the idea. Very good. Oh, do you follow me?

Participant: Yes. I got another question. All right. I’m listening to music and why, why do I like certain kind of songs and they sort of make me feel good and all that?

Bashar: You simply are identifying with the vibration as it represents to you certain ideas you have chosen to physicalize in this present life. Thank. Is very simple. Allow your physical reality to be an obvious reflection of the purposes you chose to be physical for. They are these ideas, these vibrations, some of them close in synchronous Harmony to the idea of your vibration of excitement, which is the translation physically of the energy that always indicates the path you have chosen to be on. You are in sync with yourself in that way. Always allow your imagination to be the tool that you have created it to be, to always let you know in picture or feeling for those ideas that represent at the moment you conceive of them any idea that is possible for you to manifest and act out. Become the idea and you will flow as you flow as the music.

Participant: Thank you. Very creative. B. Yes.

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Conversation 14: Grief, Depression, and Connection to Deceased Parents

Participant: This is my first time talking to you. All right. Several weeks ago, well, in the last two years, there have been several deaths in my family, including my mother and father. Yes. In fact, today is my father’s birthday. I would have been… all right. Happy birthday. Oh, would you say happy birthday?

Bashar: Birthday. Oh, would you say happy birthday? Happy birthday.

Participant: Oh, thank you. About eight or nine weeks ago I started to feel better for the first time in 2 years, and I felt better for about 7 weeks straight on a regular basis. All right. Okay. Two weeks ago tomorrow I started to feel very down and very detached.

Bashar: Very good. And that physical reality doesn’t have much… very good. And if nothing makes any sense… oh, very good. Very good.

Participant: Like to just go join them on this other Consciousness because this all doesn’t have any meaning.

Bashar: All right. Now understand that you can. However, you can also first do what you chose to do and simply recognize that you are not separated from them while you are still physical. It is one of the things that you have chosen to experience in this physical life, and in that way you can learn much that will be of great service to other individuals round and about you. The idea of going within yourself, withdrawing, is only viewed as negative by many members of your society when you judge that the idea of such a meditation or centering is something negative that you call a depression. It is not negative. You are going to the center of yourself. You are allowing your physical reality in this way to become the illusion that it is. You are allowing yourself to know you are creating it. And in this way you can recognize that all ideas of Separation can go out the window with that reality. You are still connected to all those consciousnesses; they are connected to you. And in this way, recognize this utilizing and identifying and synchronizing with that energy, particularly of in this way your father, you can understand you are now recreating another idea of your own birthday in another fashion. Recognize that the event you call… when viewed from that side is a birth. You follow me?

Participant: How do you feel?

Bashar: Not is separ… all right. How does your reality appear?

Participant: It’s okay.

Bashar: Okay. All right. Now no need in this way to create the expectation or the Judgment that it needs to be anything. Enjoy yourself. Enjoy what you are creating for yourself with the connections. All relationships once created always go on forever, no matter what the definition of the relationship, even if you are not physically together. So what? You are together and you will be together again physically and non-physically. In this way, but simply recognize that you are giving yourself the opportunity before the transformation from physicality to non-physicality to recognize one of the things you chose to recognize in this life: that while you are still physical, there are no separations, and you are creating and co-creating all the agreements that you have with every individual with which you have ever lived. Follow me?

Participant: Yes, I do. I want to say one other thing. I was speaking with Torah on Saturday.

Bashar: Yes.

Participant: And he said that I had another lifetime where I died at 13. I was with my parents, the parents of this lifetime, and we were in Atlantis and I died and they lost me and they went through a very difficult grieving process.

Bashar: All right. Now it is your turn to bat. Yes. There was some balance with that. Very good. You will in your vernacular hit a home run, round all the bases, and then go home.

Nervousness and Recurring Illness

Participant: Two years ago, um, I went in the hospital ‘cause I thought I was getting my appendix out, when really it was an infection that I had.

5 months ago, it came back and I went to the doctor. Doctor, I got on antibiotics and it seemed to go away a little bit, and then it came back. And I keep on going back to the doctor and it keeps coming back, and now they can’t even find anything that’s wrong. And I feel it. But I was wanted to ask you what is causing this, ‘cause it feels like every time I get like really insecure, that that’s what happens.

Bashar: Okay. How do you feel about knives and swords?

Participant: Now like him very much.

Bashar: Have you in your physical life ever cut yourself?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: What did you create for yourself in the way of emotionality when you did? Pain. In the way of emotionality. All right. Did any pictures other than what you deem to be the immediate experience come to mind? Any images, no matter how silly, any fantasies as you may have called them with regard to the idea of the penetrating blade? How about in your dreams? Will you do me a favor? Stand up. Stand straight. Are you in pain now?

Participant: No.

Bashar: Put your hand over the area that you feel to be affected. Turn around facing away three times in succession until you face the physical Channel again. Slowly. Keep turning. All right. Do you feel any temperature difference in that area of your body or any energy sensation at all in any portion?

Participant: Yeah. I love it. Describe it.

Bashar: It just feels heated right here.

Participant: All right. I feel hot up here.

Bashar: Very good. Now use your imagination right now and form pictures. Pictures of the area, pictures of of the energy in the area. What kind of pictures do you get in your imagination? Do not think about it. Okay. Describe it. Create the pictures and describe them as you create. We are playing a game. Feel free. There is no right and wrong answer. Describe anything abstract, colors, Sensations, pictures, images, movements, beings, no matter how you may think they are unrelated. Describe what your imagination is giving you when you simply think of the energy in the affected area.

Participant: Snow.

Bashar: All right. Very good. Keep going. Um, go into the image. Marell. All right. Go into the images. Move through the, move into them. Let them grow in your imagination until you can step actually inside of them. What other images then come? Every image you give yourself, make it grow and step inside of it, and what is the next image?

Participant: Image. Um, do not think. Do not try. Play. Feel Free. Flow. See yourself moving. So your help moving into the objects or images, even if it is an individual. Individual. Describe.

Participant: Um, all right. No need to be embarrassed. We’re only playing a game. There is no meaning or content to this. No one is judging your performance except me. Very good. Very good. You m… it down. All down. All right.

Bashar: Now that you are aware of the Judgment of your performance, how does that area feel?

Participant: So that’s what causes it? My judgment on myself? Yes. How do I get rid of it?

Bashar: Right now? You can never get rid of anything. There is nowhere to get rid of anything too, because you are the entireness of your own Universe. You fill the space of your entire universe. You are All-That-Is. It is simply a matter of preference. Do you prefer judging yourself or not? Which do you prefer?

Participant: Not.

Bashar: No. Do you prefer to judge yourself? Do you prefer to not judge yourself?

Participant: I prefer not.

Bashar: All right. Now understand with the same ability that you just made a preference, you can recognize that you do not have to judge anything, but that making a preference for what you know represents the vibration that you are in this life is not necessarily a judgment. You can prefer something which is only a recognition of the vibration that you are without judging yourself. As you feel in this way you have been judged. You follow me?

Participant: Not exactly.

Bashar: All right. Relax. We will take another approach. What is it in your life that you find very exciting, very enjoyable, more than anything right now? If you wish, anything at all. Guess.

Participant: Communication. With intimate communication with animals and people.

Bashar: All right. You feel you identify with animals very strongly?

Participant: Yeah. Well, with some animals like C dog. That’s that. All right. Why not others? ‘Cause I haven’t… very good. Why not? ‘Cause those are pretty much the animals you can have physical contact with. And something… oh, really? You’re going to have physical contact with any animal on your planet? Well, the on… they’re the ones that you can cuddle more. They’re more soft than like lizards and snakes. Hippos.

Bashar: All right. Now allow me to say hippos. All right. Now allow me to say in terms of the energy, all animals are equally soft, for they are all guides, and they are all here out of the unconditional love to allow you to see yourself and certain portions of yourself reflected back from them to you about portions of yourself you are not willing to face because you are judging that they are not worth facing. You follow me?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: Are you overly concerned with the idea of cowardness?

Participant: Yeah. Probably. Yeah, probably.

Bashar: All right. Do you think that you feel someone judged you very harshly for something they considered to be cowardness at at some point?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: Why do you think that is? That something you have created in your physical life at times? The idea of accepting a judgment against yourself that you are being cowardly, and accepting that someone else is judging you, has this scenario been created in your present life?

Participant: Yes. No. Maybe. Yeah.

Bashar: All right. Now we are not judging this. This is simply one of the many symbols that individuals in your planet have created for themselves to act out, to act through through now. Relax. Relax. Everything that you do, everything that you do is a perfect manifestation of the idea you are doing at the moment. There is no need to strive for Perfection. You will never reach it because you are already perfect. You follow me?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: Do you understand that idea? Everything that you do is exactly a perfect representation of the thing you are doing. Is it not? It is not something else. It is the thing you are doing and is perfect for what you are doing as that thing, whether it is positive or negative. It is still a perfect representation of that idea. Yes or no?

Participant: Mhm.

Bashar: All right. Then understand everything you do is perfect. Nothing is less perfect than anything else. Nothing is more perfect than anything else. You do not have or do things that are a lesser piece of a greater idea. You are not trying to better yourself. You are simply choosing to become different from one moment to the next because the differences are what exemplify the idea of the purposes you have chosen to be physical for. Each and every Act, act that you do, whether positive or in your eyes negative, is still a perfect manifestation of that act. Now, if you find that that act creates unpleasantness for you, that idea, then you are free to know that because all acts are equal to every other act you do, you do not have to judge yourself for having done one act over another. But now you may simply understand you have given yourself the opportunity to make a preference. Prefer another act and know that you can do it just as easy as you did the other act you didn’t like, because all acts are equal. There is no need in this way to judge yourself a coward for not doing something. You follow me?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: How do you feel? Better?

Participant: All right.

Bashar: Now allow me to tell you that the area of that pain was where you were first struck when you were executed for cowardice. Okay. Cowardice. Okay. In this way you will find yourself integrating this idea in your dreams, and you will allow yourself to breathe and allow that area of your body to receive the same life, the same oxygen, the same blood, because that area of your body which you have focused all the idea upon of your supposed failure in someone else’s eyes has been being deprived of your life’s blood. Let it flow back the warmth and the energy it deserves. It the totality of your being deserves to live. Recognize that you exist. Yes or no?

Participant: Yes.

Bashar: Did you have to do anything to deserve to exist? Answer is no. Creation created you without you having to do anything to earn your existence. You follow me?

Participant: Yeah. Thank you very much for allowing yourself to be a loving reflection of your own self-worth.

Bashar: You may all take a short break. Great. Allow me to say first of all, along the lines we were just discussing: just as in your Society you had formed the habit of thinking of responsibility as blame instead of freedom of choice, you have also thought of the idea of vulnerability as weakness instead of strength. Understand in this way that when you know you are always on your own path and that everything that occurs in your life is serving the purpose you chose to be physical for, then you can know that anything that happens in your life will always have positive manifestation. And in allowing yourself to be open and trust yourself in that way, then you can understand that you can be wide open to any idea, totally vulnerable, and as such completely in the center of your strength.

Participant: Thank you. Thank you. Sharing. Sure.

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Conversation 16: Parallel Realities and Nightmares

Participant: All right. Uh, I’ve been experiencing while I was in the waking State uh, what I perceive to be sort of a a parallel thought or a parallel reality. And I was wondering uh, if from your perspective or in the fourth density, would that be something uh along the lines of actually perceiving U more of your Consciousness or different parts of your Consciousness at once parallel? Yes. Or would it be more of a high frequency if you wish uh uh flipping back and forth between them? What is the difference? I guess there’s no difference. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Sure. Proceed. Recently I went through about 3 weeks of uh, when I was sleeping I would be in really heavy sweats and uh so forth. And when that finally ended, I felt like my awake state or how described uh has been unfolding very nicely and and things have been really uh well been very nice for me. All right. But now in my… you talk about dreams and living your dreams and so forth. Uh, my dreams have been so terrible I hate to go to sleep.

Bashar: All right. Now let we say first of all that many times individuals on your planet will choose to work out the idea of negative manifestation in their dream state so they don’t have to experience in your physical state. And would you rather experience it in your physical state?

Participant: Not those kind of dreams.

Bashar: Then allow yourself to recognize that you are working through ideas in your dream state and is all right to do so. Otherwise, you will create them in your physical reality because you have chosen to experience the ideas One Way or Another. You Follow Me?

Participant: Yes.

Bashar: Now does that make it seem a little bit easier to go to sleep?

Participant: Yeah. Yeah. As long as I… there’s some dreams where you you can say to yourself I know I’m dreaming, and there’s some dreams that uh…

Bashar: Oh, very good. Very real. All right. Both are real in a sense. Now understand that when you say in your dream that you know you are dreaming, automatically you can know you are out of body. You follow me? Those… those are the good ones. They are all beneficial to you in one way shape or form. Nothing is good or bad, right or wrong. It is all a valid idea to show yourself facets of your being that you wish to explore to integrate within yourself. You follow me? Yes. Allow yourself to recognize them no matter what they are to be valid experiences, and you will find that you can even enjoy the negative ones. You will learn how you can enjoy the idea and you can turn them around in mid-dream to have positive outcome. You follow me?

Participant: I do.

Bashar: Now recognize also that when you quote-unquote “wake up” and quote-unquote “remember” the quote-unquote “dream,” you are not remembering an actual experience you have had. An actual experience… what you call the dream is the best symbolic interpretation your outer physical conscious mind can make of what you went through. Many times in this way your physical conscious mind, because it is what contains the idea of judgment, will judge that what you went through was a negative experience and give you that memory. Whereas the experience itself is not negative, only because perhaps if you are not integrating within yourself and trusting yourself, the outer aware conscious mind feels that when you do certain things in your dream reality it is a threat to your physical Consciousness because it cannot understand it, because it is forced to face other portions of itself that many times you have told it you do not want to face. So it will tell you, “Well, you have just had something very scary.” It is only doing its job. It is reflecting to you the idea that you feel there are portions of yourself that are not worth discovering. And so when you make those connections, no matter how positive they are intrinsically, your physical mentality upon Awakening will tell you, “Oh, you did it again. You made that connection. You know we don’t like that. Is very scary. Oh, negative dream.”

Participant: Negative dream. Very bad for me. Very bad.

Bashar: That is because you are telling your physical outer aware Consciousness that somehow it is in a sense less desirable in this way than the integration taking place, rather than simply being a part of it. Rather than giving it a positive job to do, you follow me?

Participant: Yes. And all that would be okay except for the idea that I I think I have it in my mind that eventually it will all come together as one dream, unless I’m crazy, even you know what I mean? Like the the so-called awake state and the state will all eventually become one.

Bashar: Yes. And you are afraid that it will become a nightmare, a living nightmare.

Participant: Yeah. Parts of it.

Bashar: All right. Why?

Participant: I guess because uh I have on occasionally… all right. So what?

Bashar: Well, I is that what you prefer?

Participant: I wouldn’t desire that.

Bashar: All right. Then why do you feel in this way? You must give into the idea of your fear. As soon as you do so, that is what generates the energy required to create that idea. Now understand, you are dreaming right now. Do not mean to scare you, but you are. You are dreaming right now. That’s what I understand. All right. There is no separation. Then understand that the idea of living your dream is no more mysterious than what you are doing right now. It is not going to feel, so to speak, so much different than what you are doing right now, except that you will be consciously aware you are preferring choices. You will be conscious of the idea that your reality and your dream reality is one thing, as you are right now. Since you are conscious of that right now, and since I will assume you are having a relatively good time, you can recognize that this preference as it exists right now as you are making it is something you can continue if that is what you prefer. But recognize that the moment you fear something will happen, you are saying you believe that that is a stronger energy, as if that were possible. You follow me? Your belief will create your reality. Fear that something will happen is the same thing as saying you believe it will happen, which creates the reality. You are saying somehow that the negative idea intrinsically has more innate strength than the idea of your positive preference. You are the only one giving it that idea. And you are never out of control, even when you create a scenario in which it seems you are out of control. But you are controlling the creation of that seemingly out-of-control scenario, so you are still in control. Allow me to suggest to you that perhaps of best assistance will be the simple phrase: “So what?”

Participant: All right.

Bashar: You have nightmares? So what. All right. You are afraid that your dream reality and your physical reality will blend in a negative way and your life will become a living hell? So what. It is all creative. The moment you enjoy your living hell, it becomes heaven. You follow me?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: Because you know it is serving a purpose, and if you allow it to be a positive reflection of the idea, knowing that there are no interruptions in your life, then positive manifestation of the idea will be the only physical reality you will be able to experience. You follow me?

Participant: Thank you.

Participant: All right. Are you saying that if we had no fears, nothing negative would happen to us?

Bashar: In a sense. Understand there is no natural emotion which is negative. Fear can be a very positive idea in your physical reality. It is that innate idea in a positive sense that keeps you from stepping over the side of a cliff. You follow me? Simply when you judge that the emotion, the vibration, the energy is in and of itself negative is when you allow it to go further than its natural state and create the artificial shell which creates the idea of judgment, separation, guilt, rage, hatred, and all the ideas. Not anger. Anger is in and of itself a positive emotion. It allows you to clarify and align yourself with what you know yourself to be. That is all. And usually will only last 10 to 15 of your seconds. When it lasts longer, you are judging it to be negative and creating the idea of fixation and hate and judgment and guilt and resentment and frustration and all those ideas, artificial shells of emotionality. Now in this way, if you know you will always contain positive and negative energy, then you can simply know that they are equal and make your preference in this way, and thus you will not experience a negative manifestation of fear but only all the positive manifestations of all the ideas that you contain. You follow me?

Participant: I follow you. It just seems um harder than it sounds.

Bashar: You mean it sounds too simple? That is your choice to view it that way.

Participant: Well, I’m trying to understand it.

Bashar: You are what I’m trying to understand. It because it is the second time we have spoken on this subject. All right. Why do you prefer to try to understand rather than simply taking it for granted that on whatever level you need to you do understand and get on with your life?

Participant: Yeah. Well, you see, the only process you really need is life itself to create more life to live. And when you stop and analyze yourself, you are not allowing yourself to be conscious of the momentum. You think it has stopped and you think you must do something before it will start again. All you have to do to know you understand is to keep on living, and then you will see you understand because your life will become the ecstatic explosion of coincidence that will attract to you all the situations, people, and relationships that will prove to you that you understand if you let them. You follow me?

Participant: I follow you. But again the idea seems easier than the actuality of…

Bashar: All right. Understand that having that idea for you right now serves your purpose in what you want to learn about yourself, and thus you are still acting within the idea of creating what you need to serve your purpose. So it is still simple. The idea of forming the block for you serves a purpose, and so you are very automatically, very simply still forming that idea, and that is one of your creations, and it is not any less than any other creation. You follow me?

Participant: I follow you. Mm. Uh, there’s one other question I would like to ask you. I noticed um, this is rather new for me. It’s the second time I see you. I noticed that you very often use the phrase “so what.” What is the difference between “so what” and apathy?

Bashar: Oh, very good. Very good. In this way, recognize that when we use the phrase “so what” or the vibration in that way, we are simply allowing you the opportunity to recognize that many of the, in your terms, Vicious Cycles or negative habits that your Society creates for itself come from placing too much importance on any aspect of it in the sense of needing, needing certain things to feel complete, and not allowing yourself to Simply know you are complete in order to discover the fact that you are complete. And so we simply exercise a relaxation by saying, take the importance of having to know it, and when you relax you will find you automatically do know it. That is why we say “so what.” It is not apathy, which is in this way non-action, but it is the allowance of action to come reflecting back to you that you are putting out. It is saying, open all the doors, what do you care what comes through since you know it is all of service? So what? Why judge it? That is all we are saying. “So what” means no need to judge. No need to judge. You follow me?

Participant: Yes. Will this have clarified the idea?

Bashar: Definitely.

Participant: Thank you.

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Conversation 17: Venusians and Intestinal Issues

Participant: That all right. You um, I have two questions. All right. All right. Uh, I I was told that I came in uh with the Venusians at one time, uh, and there were three of us, two females and one male, and that uh at this period that the three would come back together again. And I wanted to know if those three were aspects of myself or whether those are two other beings that I I am yet to meet in this lifetime.

Bashar: Now first of all, understand there is no difference between those two ideas.

Participant: Right. I do. All right. So uh, but what I felt was if it was the first, that would be integrated in the one physical body, the three consciousnesses, or if it was the latter, it would appear in three different bodies.

Bashar: Our perception at this time is that it will be in three bodies.

Participant: Bodies. Okay.

Bashar: Now there is a possibility that even though you will perceive it as two separate bodies, there will be aspects of those individuals that at times may appear to you in less than a physical form of solidity as you understand physicality from time to time. And also understand that the idea you call a Venusian connection takes place on an entirely different dimensional density of experience other than the one you are in. You follow me?

Participant: Yes.

Bashar: Because in this way there is no, in your density, physical life on that planet. In other densities there is.

Participant: Right. I understand. All right. Um, the second question I have is that um, 10 years ago and 11 years ago I had um an attack in the middle of the night of Twisted intestines, and in which case they both times they were operated on, took out most of my intestines. And uh, since that time I’ve had difficulty in digestion and so forth. I know that must come from some cause, and I was wondering if you can tell me what it was.

Bashar: That all right. All we can say right now at this time is it was in a sense a massive psychic allergic reaction to the idea of being physical on this planet. You follow me?

Participant: Yeah.

Bashar: You were still in that way used to the other vibrational density and created a portion of your being that rebelled against the idea of taking in the sustenance of this world. You could not digest it. You follow me?

Participant: What can allow your integration to continue?

Bashar: All right. Yes. You will serve your purposes as you have created them. This will not interfere.

Participant: All right. Yes. Thank you.

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Conversation 18: Hot Baths, Affirmations, and Hernia Surgery

Participant: One moment. One male energy. Okay. You. Thank you. Um, really a couple three weeks ago uh, you recommended that I take hot baths, and um, I’ve been doing that. And in meditation I got the idea that the condition that this was for nice related to some kind of an incident, although I didn’t get specific on incident, that I felt that I should have gotten in hot water for, to use our terminology. That’s right. Can you um add any anything to that my understanding there?

Bashar: Not on that alone. No.

Participant: Okay. Um, what else did you take it to? How far did you take it beyond that idea?

Participant: Yes. Well, um, perhaps what I’m about to say… well, we answer that question. Perhaps I’ve been doing some affirmations. All right. For the purpose of viewing uh my reality through how I feel about it rather than what I think about it. All right. And it’s been uh very interesting. Um, I’m just basically beginning to feel my way, quote-unquote, into this experience of not thinking about things but feeling them. Okay. And um, I was wondering if you any further suggestions that would uh help me to um continue this process.

Bashar: No. Okay. You are doing fine.

Participant: Okay, sir. We may… oh. Um, okay. Uh, I have two questions. One of them is uh, recently uh, I developed a hernia and had it fixed about 8 weeks ago. And when I came to, in fact I wasn’t all the way too… I I was still like paralyzed, but all right, you were a bit more fro… I I experienced the heaviest grief charge that I’ve ever experienced this lifetime, and it was just unbelievable. And the water was pouring out from my eyes and I still couldn’t move or cry or anything. Do you remember why?

Bashar: No. I you were out of your body. Yeah. And you experience the idea of having to come back with a negative judgment. With a negative judgment. And so you created the idea of grief because of the great Beauty you felt in the non-physical experience, because you were comparing the idea of being trapped in the body, which you are not. Follow me?

Participant: Oh. I I was backed over that me. It was my lump. My throat was so big I could hardly get air by it.

Bashar: It was the closest you have come to consciously remembering one of your out-of-body excursions which you do all the time. All of you do when you are asleep.

Participant: Okay. Then the other thing is um, I was listening to a tape yesterday uh by somebody else that he was discussing uh hydrogen, um, the separating of hydrogen and oxygen, taking water and getting energy from it. And it was a very simple way uh of doing this that you could even do in your own homes. And I was thinking, wow, if somebody could develop something like that. So what I’m asking you is, do you have any ideas how this could be simply done instead of using so much energy to do it like we do now? Like maybe the lasers?

Bashar: You are working on it to some degree. It will be a vibrational resonance idea. Yes. You can use the idea you call electricity to some degree to In This Way form the combination of the idea in this way you call hydrogen and oxygen to form the substance you call water. In this way, recognize it will involve more understanding of the magnetic properties of those particular elements, but you can allow them to attract in a cold fusion process in this way relatively simply. Some individuals upon your planet are working with this idea right now. A lot more efficient than solar energy. And it depends on what type of solar energy you are talking about.

Participant: Well, the kind that we know about.

Bashar: All right. But in this way you are also creating other ideas of solar energy. All of these ideas can come together. Now, if you find the idea so fascinating, why not give it a shot yourself? Use your imagination. That which you find exciting and fascinating is an indication of your curiosity barometer pointing the way to something that you can do. Understand you have been involved in these types of Endeavors in past lives. In this way you can bring that portion of yourself to the Forefront, be that self, and you can have some insight as to how some of these ideas might be accomplished with your physical technology today.

Participant: I was just thinking how wonderful it would be, you know, if we have be so dependent on the oil company… yay.

Bashar: You have created them to be dependent upon. If you are changing your mind, then you will find that the idea of your physical reality will change along with it. No need to judge what you have created. It has served your purpose.